Youth Firearm?

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by COUNTRYBOY, Aug 8, 2004.

  1. COUNTRYBOY

    COUNTRYBOY 6 pointer

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    I need some advice from some of you guys who have young kids hunting. My 9 year old daughter wants to start deer hunting this year. She's been shooting a .22 for a couple of years and is very good. She seems to be getting deer fever now, a chip off the old block. I need to go ahead and get her a youth rifle so she can start practicing and get the feel of it. I am looking at two H&R Youth rifles of .243 caliber. They are single shots and very light. What do some of your kids use? I would really like any advice from some of you dads who have already got your kids started. Thanks.

    A COUNTRYBOY CAN SURVIVE
     
  2. broadside

    broadside 6 pointer

    I tried a 243 when my daughter was 9. She was scared of it[B)] She liked the 223 alot better. Some might think that is too light but not with good shot placement, which is hard to do if your scared of the recoil. I would also suggest a 22-250. I hunted with one for a few years and dropped several deer. Never had to track one more than 50 yards.

    CAIN'T HAVE NOTHIN
     
  3. Bucko

    Bucko Spike

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    We use 2 break open 243 single shots,that we have passed from family to family, they are scoped with simons pro dimond 4 power scopes , they shoot 85 grain hollow points,and work very well.they are a little on the heavy side , but when you get to the stand they are great little guns.Bucko

    Frank Warren
     
  4. Gobblergetter2

    Gobblergetter2 6 pointer

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    get a youth model .243. That is an awesome caliber for greenhorns!


    Jeff Fogle
     
  5. westkybanded

    westkybanded 12 pointer

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    Might give the ol' tried and true 30-30 a chance. It'll do the job, plus it dosen't kick bad at all.
     
  6. shogan

    shogan Cyber-Hunter

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    No one loves shooting a 30-30 more than I but you will see the recoil on the 243 and 223 and 22-250 is less. Unless of course you try to get the higher weight rounds then the 30-30 offers less or similar kick for the higher weight. Also remember that a heavier gun absorbs the impact more where a lighter gun gives a swifter kick. And by all means buy her the best recoil pad you can find.


    Cartridge (Wb@MV) Rifle Weight Recoil energy Recoil velocity

    .223 Rem. (45 at 3500) 8.5 2.6 4.5
    .223 Rem. (55 at 3200) 8.0 3.2 5.1
    .22-250 Rem. (55 at 3600) 8.5 4.7 6.0
    .220 Swift (55 at 3800) 8.5 5.3 6.4
    .223 WSSM (55 at 3850) 7.5 6.4 7.4
    .243 Win. (75 at 3400) 8.5 7.2 7.4
    .243 Win. (100 at 2960) 7.5 8.8 8.7
    6mm Rem. (100 at 3100) 8.0 10.0 9.0
    .243 WSSM (100 at 3100) 7.5 10.1 9.3
    30-30 Win. (150 at 2400) 7.5 10.6 9.5

    http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

    Finally, obviously she will be shooting less than a 100 yards. And probably less than 50 yards. All will do the job.

    How about try getting two barrels for that gun. 1 at the range using .223 then a second for the feild using .243 I think the extra barrell is only another $125.

    If you could find an 85-100 grain 30-30 that would probably have less recoil then the comparable .243. But you won't find it on the typical store shelf.
     
  7. Remington12

    Remington12 8 pointer

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    I started my boys with a single shot .243 that I added an adult stock. Shoots great and recommend a 4 - 9x scope. My youngest (12 now) liked his 20 guage (with slug) last season because it was lighter to hold than the .243. He was successful with it, but wants to try the rifle again this year. I don't put them in a stand situation that I expect more than 75 yd shots. I would also use ear protection as the sound makes them more scared sometimes than the recoil. Good luck and remember to pack gummy bears!


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  8. broadside

    broadside 6 pointer

    Good info Shogun, Thanks

    CAIN'T HAVE NOTHIN
     
  9. broadside

    broadside 6 pointer

    Good info Shogun, Thanks

    CAIN'T HAVE NOTHIN
     
  10. COUNTRYBOY

    COUNTRYBOY 6 pointer

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    Good info Shogun. Yesterday she shot a .243 a few times and seemed to be comfortable with it. As far as taking a deer down, I know a .243 will without a doubt but do you guys really think a .223 will successfully put a deer down pretty quick without running off and losing it or running across a boundary line? I would very much hate to see her lose her first deer.

    A COUNTRYBOY CAN SURVIVE
     
  11. Marcus

    Marcus 6 pointer

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    I thought a .243 was as small as you could legally use to hunt deer?
     
  12. GSP

    GSP 14 Pointer Staff Member

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marcus</i>
    <br />I thought a .243 was as small as you could legally use to hunt deer?
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    Any centerfire round is legal
     
  13. deadaim

    deadaim 12 pointer

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    my 8 year old has an h&r 243 single shot youth model with a spare 20 guage full choke barrel and i bought him a limbsaver pad and a youth shotgun stock he uses this outfit for everything from deer to turkeys dove and squirl it works awsome and easy to clean .

    Stay content in the mundane it gives us energy when the spectacular comes along....
     
  14. shogan

    shogan Cyber-Hunter

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    .223 is legal but I think you are more likely to get a bleeder/runner. (ecspecially if she gets lucky and finds a bruiser).

    I would stick with the .243.

    Souds like dead aim has a good set up.
     
  15. cowboy

    cowboy Spike

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    I used a 30-30 also when I started. Tell ya the truth, used it until a year ago and I am 24.

    Can't wait til November!
     

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