Where's the ammo and primers Part 2

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  1. riverboss

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    Not bad 21.00 for 308
    Not sure on the 9mm I think 223 was descent in bulk packs plenty of ak47 ammo.
     
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  3. redlickranch

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    Walmart on Bardstown Road next to Gene Snyder had 30-06 and 300 Win Mag in stock tonight as of 7:30 PM. Nothing else.
     
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  4. Travis Thacker

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    The only ammo the Corbin and London KY Walmart had in stock this summer was some 270 and 30-06 Winchester special edition boxes. There was some 12 gauge blue box steel #2 Federal at Corbin's walmart but they have a manager who wont sell ammo anymore. They won't stock anything other then a small amount and no handgun at all.
    I was able to get her to stock the 28 gauge Federal 1 oz loads and the AA-Super Sporting Clays 3/4 oz loads in 2017-2018 but once they all sold out she never restocked for 2020-2021. The manufacture claim that they are running 3 shifts and extra lines but I do not see ammo online or in stores. My local sporting goods store has Winchester 3/4 oz Super-X 28 gauge #6 and #5 in stock. That was a knew load in 2018 that came out on a limited run............to expensive really, it's the same exact load as the AAHS but with #6 or #5 shot inside the shell and it costs 5-10$ more per box then the AAHS #8's or #7.5 so it's not really worth purchasing unless you just got to have #5 or #6 shot for some reason. Your better off buying the 1 oz Super-X Magnum 28 gauge for the 14-18$ price tag or the Federal Blue Box 1 oz Magnum load if you don't mind the recoil in a small gun.
     
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  5. riverboss

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    Dunhans in Maysville had 1oz 28 ga sat and lots of it 10.99 a box.
     
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  6. davers

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    I'd like to know why is there's quantity of 28 gauge shell for sale?? Just a few years ago one couldn't find any 28 gauge anything, it was rare to see a box of 28 gauge shells in stores. Can't understand why one can't find any .410 3" or 2.5" anywhere, this whole thing is very strange to me. Have they discontinued .410 shells??
     
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  7. Travis Thacker

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    I can give you the answer to that shell question Daver's, Federal Premium and Blue Box 28 gauge shells had 2-3 new for 2018 loads that came out. It took them about 6 months in 2018 to catch up to the 3" inch magnum Euro guns that were made in 2014. The 3" inch Euro auto loaders that came out in 2014 forced companies like Federal to offer a magnum 28 gauge load of some type. So in 2018 Federal only had 2 3/4" inch hulls but they could purchase BPI wads in the form of the HV-28 Magnum wad and load them with 1 oz or 15/16th oz of Lead shot to compete with the 3" inch 1 oz magnum loads offered at higher velocity.
    Winchester already offered a 1 oz Super-X 28 gauge in #5 #6 #7.5 and #8 shot. Winchester decided that to compete with Federal they would offer a 3/4 oz #5 #6 Super-X game load but at a slightly reduced price compared to the 1 oz magnums but more expensive then AAHS-#8 shot. The 3/4 oz Super-X #5 #6 shot are simply the same exact wad, hull, primer, powder as the AAHS but with #5 or #6 shot inside and they cost 5$ more per box. Your paying for bigger shot basically.
    The reason all those shells are on the Walmart floor and other stores.........They made a huge run of them in 2014 through 2019 and then stopped. Bunches of the Federal 1 oz did not sell well cause it got bad reviews compared to the other 1 oz magnum choices. Federal basically offered a budget 1 oz magnum but kept the 3/4 oz premium loads and TSS premium offerings.
     
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  8. Travis Thacker

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    Dave, as for the .410 shells I have about 200 hulls that were given to me but I don't own a .410 or reload for that gauge. If you reload your welcome to the hulls. It's a lot of mixed AAHS and Federal + STS Remington hulls in both sizes, 2.5" and 3" inch.
    The Judge and other ( special .410 class shotguns ) had ammo manufactures on end making .410 loads 10 years ago but the market dried up when people figured out .410 handguns and birdshot are a dumb defensive idea. Even with #000 Buckshot the barrel is so short velocity gets lower with slow burn powder required by the .410 shells. Manufactures had to offer special JUDGE .410 loads that got market sales galore but little attention was paid to sporting loads other then TSS custom shop stuff that's way to expensive for hunting anything other then Turkey and even that's kinda goofy unless you just want to do it for kicks.
     
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  9. davers

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    Thanks very much for your offer of .410 hulls for reloading. I currently have a bucket full of .410-3" hulls myself, shot over the years. I use to own a Lee Loader .410 and reloaded my shells using: #5 nickle plated shot which worked very well on game. I haven't reloaded for the .410 since the 1980's as the factory shells have always been available, until now. I currently have 2 1/2 boxes of .410-3" shells #5 & #4 shot I use for Squirrels during early Squirrel season. As for the 28 gauge, I can't figure out why anyone would even want to own a 28 gauge, as the 20 gauge is a better load. I've heard the 28 gauge being referred to as a "Yuppies Shotgun".
     
  10. Travis Thacker

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    The 20 gauge is the better option for kids, it's what I started with once I got big enough to use a shotgun. The 28 gauge and 20 gauge both shoot the same exact load weights in 2 3/4" inch shells. 3/4 oz is considered to be lite in 20 gauge but normal in 28 gauge, while 7/8oz in 20 gauge is normal but in a 28 gauge it's a heavy field load. #1 oz loads in 28 gauge are magnum but in 20 gauge they are considered heavy field load. When I had an 1100-LT20 I really liked 1 oz Super-X for almost all shooting but I used 7/8 oz #8 shot for some stuff. 1 1/8th oz baby magnums were a great load in 20 gauge 2 3/4" inch XX Magnums #4 or #6 shot but Winchester discontinued that 2 3/4" inch load by 2008 and only loaded 3" inch magnum 20 gauge 1 1/4 oz XX Supremes or Super Pheasant Shells. Shooters wanted that 12 gauge 1 1/4oz load in the 20 gauge 3" inch shell no matter the recoil. I shot 3" inch myself and still have 2 boxes of #25 XX #4's left over.
     
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  11. davers

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    I own a Browning Gold 20 gauge shotgun, and have good results using the 1 oz load or 3" Magnum Turkey load, as it's a whole lot easier on the shoulder than a 12 gauge. My Brother has an H&R Single shot 12 gauge Turkey Shotgun that is almost impossible to shoot!! Recoil with 3" - 3.5" shells is terrible produces more recoil than a .460 Weatherby Mag.
     
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  12. Travis Thacker

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    It can confuse some newer buyers when purchasing the older guns like Mossy 500 or Remington 870 type 20 gauge frames. All the newer guns are built on Aluminum frames almost always close to gauge scale. The older frames especially Remington were designed with 20 gauge " lite " in mind so as to make for a very lite weight 20 gauge 2 3/4" inch or 3" inch auto loader or pump. In reality it makes for a slightly heavy 28 gauge auto or pump but it really soaks up the recoil in a 28 gauge lite load environment. I can shoot 5/8 oz or the 3/4 oz all day with no effort and 7/8 oz heavy field loads feel just like shooting the 20 gauge in a 870 or 1100. Same goes for the 1 oz loads but I can tell that the small scale frame kicks a tad with heavy 1 oz or magnum loads even in the 20 gauge models.
    With big buckshot loads or the 3" inch magnum 1 1/4 oz type stuff the 20 gauge actually recoils more then it's 12 gauge sister shotguns when the older type guns I mentioned are used. It's why a huge trend for 12 gauge LR buckshot took over for 12 gauge rather then people just adopting 20 gauge defense shotguns, although some have gained popular models like the Mossy 500 "weapon" lol with that bird's eye grip. Everyone loves the 20 gauge model but dislikes the 12 gauge recoil monster.
     
  13. Travis Thacker

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    ( Never liked a single shot shotgun due to the recoil alone. ) In a .410 they are O.K. but I've shot 16's and 20 gauge singles that recoil more then most 12 gauge auto loaders with heavy field loads. Poor old timers probably never kept a filling in a tooth, no wonder lots of them had back and neck problems also. Hard work combined with using heavy hard recoiling guns. They say it's why the sub-gauge guns are getting more popular now .....old guys wanting far less recoil in field and they have come to the conclusion that 1200-1300 FPS #4's or #7.5's all hit the same no matter the gauge they are shot from.
     
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  14. Carl

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    I was shooting a single barrel Stevens 12 gauge 30 inch barrell full choke with high brass shells when I was 10 years old.o_O
     
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  15. riverboss

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    You are bad ass!
    I up graded to a sportsman 58 auto 12ga at 10 that thing weighed half as much as me, but I could throw 3 high brass shells out like lightening and rabbits didn't have a chance.
     
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