GodblessKy
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Nothing, they just let you die by the millions, unless you were a milkmaid. I guess those were the good old days when you had the right to die without government mandates.
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wolverine1
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Thats me then. Like I had mentioned previously, I realized I lost my sense of smell when trying to help my wife "relearn" hers with essential oils. My wife tested positive first, then the kids. I never tested positive, took it 3 separate times.Odds are we have all had it.
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GodblessKy
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We've all had coronaviruses in the past and the CDC has been watching them for years, that is why the vaccine came out so fast. Yeah, lots of us had natural immunity to strains of the virus before it mutated and didnt get sick or had a mild case but it was enough to kick others over the edge and die. That's why it was so important to contain the virus as much as possible so it wouldn't kill the weak and vulnerable.
wolverine1
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I would have to respectfully disagree on why it came out so fast...
And, if we all have had coronaviruses in the past, how come the government has never has never discounted natural immunity before like they have with COVID? Or incentivized getting vaccinated? Someone please give me a plausible or reasonable explanation. Why was J&J pulled off the market because it was causing blood clots?
GodblessKy
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We never had so many people die from a virus like covid 19 in our lifetime. The reason we incentivized vaccination was because we wanted to slow the spread and control the virus. Covid 19 mutated so fast I think it was too hard for our immunity to keep up. I am not an ID Dr. or epidemiologist but I saw enough people die from the this virus to see what it was capable of. Once the cascade progressed to a certain point only thing you could do was to intubate and then ecmo and hope for the best.
GodblessKy
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The vaccines were rushed to market, but I think it was quite amazing how effective they were without the amount of trials. The pharmaceuticals are making tons of money off the vaccines, but its a capitalistic country right? I know how much people on here don't like regulation.
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Almost as much as we love a good boogie man to blame/fear.
The government gave great incentives to drive up the numbers by not differentiating between death with and death from and paying funeral expenses if you’d attach Covid to the death. This whole thing has stunk from the beginning so no wonder so many believe that the shot was not created for Covid but Covid was created for the shot. Tuskegee experiment ring a bell? We’ll see I guess. Why were other seemingly valid treatments disparaged to go with the put them on a ventilator and hope it works out routine?
GodblessKy
8 pointer
You put them on a vent because if you didnt they would die. At that point horse medicine wouldnt do much for them
GodblessKy
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There could have been incentives for fraud to drive up numbers, but hospitals and insurance companies commit fraud on a daily basis to collect more CMS dollars so it would be business as usual for them, but it doesnt take away from the need for mass vaccinations in my opinion.
What was the go to intermediate medicine? I’m honestly asking? Was it what Trump took?
GodblessKy
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There was a protocol to treat with steroids and remdesivir. We learned not to intubate too quickly after it hit NY and New Orleans.
Attached is an example of a hospital treatment protocol:
Hospitalized Adults: Therapeutic Management | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines
Learn about the pharmacologic management of hospitalized adults with COVID-19.
www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
I think Trump got the Remdesivir, not sure.
drakeshooter
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“I know how much people on here don’t like regulation.” Lol that’s straight off page 1 or 2 of the Commie lovers handbook, refute any point with an extreme example. If we say we want limited gooberment then they surely don’t want police, military, etc. And if we say we want fiscal restraint then we must want to take away granny’s check. If we demand personal responsibility then we want to starve little kids out. Lmao, it’s easy to see commonsense ain’t your strong suit.
GodblessKy
8 pointer
Well, with the entire R party in the pockets of the pharmaceutical industry, I wouldnt look for them for any regulation- I think that is on page 3 of the Commie lovers handbook.
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