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Discussion in 'Politics' started by EC, Dec 4, 2019.

  1. I’m with you, younger men today will take it with a handful of sand for lube and like it. We are doomed.
     
  2. wv67

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    Very few men growing up today , society has ruined our boys and girls for that matter
     
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  3. Wildcat

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    House Democrats have announced the grounds of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress on which they plan to seek the impeachment of President Trump.

    Neither of these proposed articles satisfy the express constitutional criteria for an impeachment, which are limited to “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
    Neither are high or low crimes or misdemeanors.
    Neither are mentioned within the Constitution.

    Both are so vague and open ended that they could be applied in partisan fashion by a majority of the House against almost any president from the opposing party.
    Both raise the “greatest danger,” in the words of Alexander Hamilton, that the decision to impeach will be based on the “comparative strength of parties,” rather than on “innocence or guilt.”

    A majority of the House is simply making it up as they go along in the process,
    thus placing themselves not only above the law but above the Constitution.

    In doing this, they follow the view of Representative Maxine Waters who infamously declared that, when it comes to impeachment, “there is no law.”
    From her view, shared by some others, the criteria for impeaching a president is whatever a majority of the House says it is, regardless of what the Constitution mandates.

    This reductionistic and lawless view confuses what a majority of the House could get away with, if there is no judicial review, and what the mandated duty of all House members is, which is to support, defend, and apply the Constitution as written, not as it can be stretched to fit the actions of an opposition or controversial president.

    If the House votes to impeach President Trump on grounds not authorized by the Constitution, its action, in the words of Hamilton, is void.

    As he put it in the Federalist Papers, “no legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.”

    An analogy to consider from ordinary criminal cases may be imperfect but informative.
    If a grand jury were to indict a citizen on an unconstitutional “crime,” like marrying a person of a different race, the trial judge would immediately dismiss the indictment and refuse to subject the defendant to a trial.

    Indeed, the House plays a role similar to that of a grand jury in the impeachment context, and the Senate plays a role similar to the trial court.

    In the long term, it is highly unlikely that President Trump will be removed by a two-thirds vote in the Senate controlled by Republicans.
    However, in the meantime, the unconstitutional action by a majority of the House to impeach a president on grounds not specified in the Constitution will certainly do considerable damage to the rule of law.

    - - - - - Alan Dershowitz, Professor Emeritus, Harvard Law
     
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  4. wv67

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    That’s exactly what they want to do they don’t care about the constitution , they want Trump out of the picture PERIOD , and from there the country finishes flushing down the tubes , and the generations to come will suffer greatly
     
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  5. Feedman

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    Dershowitz is a Democrat
     
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  6. Wildcat

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    YES he is. And a Liberal Democrat at that, his own words. The difference is he's HONEST.
     
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  10. wv67

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    He was rich before president , Obama wasn’t but now is worth Millions 67 million advance for a book that won’t be worth wiping your arse with there’s a fact all these crooks and haters talking how Trump used daddy’s money to get what he got , well at least he did t use ours like Obama did
     
  11. RLWEBB

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    When our government, and those wanting to lead (Elizabeth Warren), wants to pay for a man to have his penis cut off, we are DOOMED! Plain and simple! Heck, didn’t the taxpayers already pay for Chelsea Manning to have his junk cut off?
     
  12. gds

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  13. Carl

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    Looks like the little commie bitch didn't Crybaby.jpeg show. Haha I knew she wouldn't. :D
     
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  14. ptbrauch

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    Except he didn't.
     
  15. EC

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    Just part of the Frankfurt School...
     

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