I don't think it's that we want a civil war but that its inevitable. When they try to take away guns and our precious few last freedoms bullets and blood will fly. Best to be prepared. It's coming whether we want it or not. My son and I have been preparing for the last several yrs. 100 acres surrounded by DBNF land, complete with springs ,caves cliffs and a few surprises. God ,guns,and guts built this country and we intend to do our part to survive and keep it that way. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!