The Ultimate tracking critter

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by Duster, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. kyhunter99

    kyhunter99 12 pointer

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    P.s. if a dog finds sheds they are invaluable imo. My old dog would recover deer but wouldnt touch a shed if you stuck it in front of him. Drove me nuts.
     
  2. Munson

    Munson 12 pointer

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    She was just checkin for a pulse 20181125_180619.jpg
     
  3. kyhunter99

    kyhunter99 12 pointer

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    My vote is this, OP should take a dog out. Nothing to lose.
     
  4. Nock

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    My Aussie found one for us over the weekend and has brought up several sheds/skulls.
     
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  5. Duster

    Duster 12 pointer

    I had the dog or many dogs growing up, I found they are like kids, can't leave them alone for very long or have heck to pay. Kinda a cat type person, I can leave out a couple pounds of food, plenty water and a couple clean litter boxes and go away for a week or more and not worry about what the cat is up to. Don't have to pay to board them is a big plus also.
     
  6. Drahts

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    Just get a Teckel. They eat less, are fearless and super trackers.

     
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  7. Drahts

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    Have you ever set around drinking beer with buddies and come up with a hairbrained idea. Well the germans created the boxer, they love beer, even have beer gardens! Nuff said!
     
  8. shaman

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    I don't claim to have had special deer dogs, but my sheppard/collie mix, Barney, knew from the start how to track deer. He was wickedly smart, and understood the situation. A few years later, we got a beagle/lab mix named Lily. Lily had a much better nose. Barney taught Lily the "Dead Deer" game, and pretty soon it was Lily's nose and Barney's speed through the woods.

    The one thing I found with both dogs was that they were absolutely ravenous on deer carcasses. I had to be careful. The first few times I got a deer and introduced it to Barney, he started attacking the hind flanks as soon as my back was turned. Lily and Barney were both rescue dogs, and had spent time in the wild. I suspect they saw deer as the ultimate buffet.

    My point in writing this is I believe it doesn't take that great a nose for a dog to trail deer, especially on a fresh trail. You can probably train a wide range of dogs. The trick is introducing them to what a deer smell like and getting them to understand what you want.

    To the OP: You're biting off more than you can chew with Coyotes. They're not dogs. They aren't tamed, and they don't bond with humans. Cross a 'yote with a dog, and you might get what you want, but you might also get a human-wise 'yote with no desire to be tamed. That's what the coydogs are like around us, and those bastids scare me a lot more than 'yotes.

    My advice is to get a known tracker (like a beagle) and teach it what you want. There are youtubes out there on how to begin training a deer dog. I don't know how effective they are, but they match my experience with Lily.
     
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  9. shaman

    shaman 10 pointer

    BTW: Boxers were originally bred as boar dogs. They could latch onto a pig and hold on. A good one may have an excellent nose. My buddy who retired from editing a gun dog magazine said the best bird dog he ever had was a boxer. It's only failing was that it pointed rather oddly: it would look like it was going to take a crap and shake violently.
     
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  10. trapper perry

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    After fooling with coyotes for 30 years I would never try to tame one.I know of one trapper who tried to raise one from a pup.Ended up biting one of his grandchildren.You just never can trust them.Theres always that wild streak waiting to show up.
     
  11. Munson

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    Didn't know that. Actually don't know crap about the breed l to have owned 2(one free that was trained well the other was an impulse buy (to satisfy the ex) when the first got ran over. Both was very loyal and never bit anyone but as age goes on seems her tolerance is a bit shorter. I won't allow a biting dog of any form or fashion and I don't even have a family. I'd rather have an ol goofy mutt that wouldn't hurt a flea like my old GSP some gorge hippy stold.:mad:
     
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  12. bondhu

    bondhu 12 pointer

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    TIME OUT! As in Red River Gorge Hippy? That sombatch, LMOA
     
  13. Duster

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    Kinda like a Pit bull eh ? I knew a gal that had a red fox that would walk on a leash and follow her around the house and yard. Not for me stunk to high heaven.
     
  14. bondhu

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    gal or the fox?:D
     
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  15. kyhunter99

    kyhunter99 12 pointer

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    Its kind of funny... the idea we have to train the decendent of a wolf how to find a 200lb steak in the woods.
     

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