Sunflowers anyone???

Discussion in 'Habitat Improvement' started by HuntsItAll, May 7, 2019.

  1. HuntsItAll

    HuntsItAll 8 pointer

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    Usually this thread gets started back in February...... Anyone planting this year? I'm about a week away from planting this year. I planted 5 acres last year on May 25th. Had great success with growth and plenty of seeds on the ground in September. Just didn't have many doves... Some have told me it will take a year or so for the birds to start using the field, so I'm going to give it another try!!!
     
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  2. Ataulbe1

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    My wife bought a bunch of seed, but I haven't planted yet. Already have doves all around the house so I'm sure they'll be happy when I do! I'll be watching here for any advice. Didn't have great luck my first year. I think maybe too much shade.
     
  3. hunt-4-life21

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    Two years ago, we had great hunts everywhere I went. Last year, it was a struggle everywhere I went. I think it was just a bad hatch and more birds pushed south right before season.

    I've got my 2.5 acres broke up. A few more discings and we will be ready to plant. Going with Clearfield sunflowers/BroadAxe herbicide. Worked well last year and never had to spray with Lightning. I've decided not to plant prior to the 15th, though. I had a totally killed out field on August 1st last year. By Sept 1st, I had lots of weeds from sunlight hitting fresh ground. I think I planted around May 7th or 8th last year.
     
  4. peaker

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    What do you guys like to use for row width on sunflowers? I plan on putting some out for first time as well and going to use drill with 7.5" spacing. I am thinking of covering every other seed cup and having 15" rows.
     
  5. T-wil69

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    Unless you get the round up ready it’s just a pain to keep the weeds out so this year I planted wheat back last winter, going to burn it off close to season, so much easier than sunflowers
     
  6. hunt-4-life21

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    I posted this on the 2018 post last year and I'll forward this year. I'm not going to say I'm an expert on sunflower fields but my field last year was the best I seen around here. These two pictures were taken around the same time, one in 2017 and one in 2018. Look at the difference in weed control with the same plant size. I plant sunflowers on 30" rows with our corn planter. Here is 2017:
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    That field was sprayed with nothing pre-emergence and lightning was going on that day. Lots of nutsedge and whatever else. This was an old hay field.
    Here was 2018 around the same time.
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    Difference was I put on a pre-emergence (BroadAxe HC). We talked a lot about Spartan and Dual/Select in the 2017 thread. Spartan is a broad leaf control pre emergence. Dual/Select is a grass control pre emergence. Broadaxe is a combination of both but has a trait that will not hurt a sunflower. I actually think you could apply it before a sunflower is even planted. I planted mine, then sprayed within a couple days. I even put in some round-up to kill on contact prior to the sunflowers sprouting. Now, I planted Clearfield's but I really think you could switch to a non-herbicide resistant sunflower if you sprayed pre-emergence. I know a lot of people talk about not being able to keep weeds out of sunflowers. The key is to shut them down and give your sunflowers a chance to shade the ground. Once they get ground shaded, you won't have an issue with weeds.
     
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  7. hunt-4-life21

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    Mine are in. 5/16/19.
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  8. bigbonner

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  9. hunt-4-life21

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    I'll spray this afternoon, so post plant but pre emergence. I think you can actually spray before you plant but when you run your planter thru, you will turn up soil that wasn't treated. It's also worth noting you need a good .5" of rain to activate it(or get the chemical in the ground).

    I've planted Clearfield's for the past 3 years but didn't this year because my SS rep was out. If Broadaxe does like it did last year, you will be money ahead to buy peredovics. Beyond (or Lightning) sucks, IMO. The two years I used it, it never killed a thing. Only slowed the weed down and gave the sunflower a chance to beat the weed.
     
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  10. bigbonner

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    I agree with the Clearfield sunflower and using beyond to kill weeds . It works good for a little while then the weeds start coming .
    I will be watching your post to see how well BroadAxe works at keeping weeds down.
     
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  11. Rob7

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    As I was on the tractor today I wondered if a new sunflower thread had been started.
    Life has gotten a little too busy these days and I haven't been on the site in a while.
    Finished everything up today. Tried something different this year.
    Typically have planted the clearfield sunflower seed and then used lightning when the sunflowers were about a 8" tall.
    This year planted clearfield sunflower seed but after planting sprayed a mixture of Stealth and Spartan the same day.
    A buddy of mine does this and has had the cleanest field I have been in. Fingers crossed it works!
    If it does not I will use the lightning when the plants get up to about 6"-8"
    The sunflower thread from last year can be found here http://www.kentuckyhunting.net/threads/dove-field-planning.157516/
    This year the farmers raising soy beans 1 field over disced up the sunflower field for me in mid April so I was able to till with out mowing first. On average in the past it has taken about 4 hours to mow it down really tight with a 5' bush hog prior to tilling it; Takes about 8 hours to till it with a 5' tiller prior to planting; Takes about 4 hours to plant with the old John Deere 2 row corn planter. Spraying with my little 14 gallon set up takes about 6 hours; probably 1/2 that time is mixing chemicals and filling up the 14 gallon tank.
    Here are some pictures from this weekend.
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  12. HuntsItAll

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  13. HuntsItAll

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  14. hunt-4-life21

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    Really quiet on here this year. Right at a month update. To start, this may be my worst sunflowers since the first year I planted. It’s just been a combination of bad timing and no rain in the first few weeks to get seed up. I had to work the field and couldn’t spray round up (because of mares tail already established). This allowed for some of the seed to lose moisture, im sure. After planting, we received 3-4 rains of .2” over the next 4 weeks. At one point, we went 3 weeks and never received a drop of rain. If her germination and weed control. The chemical used needs to be rained in or cultivated in within 7-10 days. I kept thinking it would rain and it never did. So we have 70% germination and quite a few weeks. These are Peredovics so no spraying after planting. We still have enough to hunt over, but they won’t shade the ground. And that’s what worries me more than anything.
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  15. Feedman

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    Invite all the guys over who plan on shooting doves. Give them all a gooseneck hoe an let them chop out all the weeds. No chop weeds no shoot doves
     

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