I finally got out to shooting the 204 rugers i been getting ready for yote hunting. Always used a 223 or 22-250 and still like those calibers but i think the 204 will serve me better as i tend to save the hides and tan them. This is with federal premium 32 gr ammo. The Thompson center shot the 32 and 40 very well but favored the 32's. The Howa only liked the 32's wouldnt group the 40's at all.