Rumor bunch of COs quit?????

[KYH5N1]

As far as I know, the tat policy has been in effect since 1948. It is a well known policy. Didn't say applicants can't have tatoos, just that they can't be visible wearing summer uniform. I agree that there are a lot of great people with visible tats. Can't have facial hair either. Another policy. Didn't just spring these policies on anyone. If you want to be a Trooper, these policies are well known. Don't get a tat that's visible in summer uniform. Can't follow that, how many other "antiquated " policies will they ignore?

 

[Buzzy]

As far as I know, the tat policy has been in effect since 1948. It is a well known policy. Didn't say applicants can't have tatoos, just that they can't be visible wearing summer uniform. I agree that there are a lot of great people with visible tats. Can't have facial hair either. Another policy. Didn't just spring these policies on anyone. If you want to be a Trooper, these policies are well known. Don't get a tat that's visible in summer uniform. Can't follow that, how many other "antiquated " policies will they ignore?

Man the biggest thing holding us back from commonsense is ourselves.

 

[KYH5N1]

Teenagers getting tats don't know what they're doing the next day, much less several yrs down the road when careers start coming into play. Growing up, the only tats I saw were on military and the Louisville Outlaws bikers. Now, see tats on pre-teen through 80 yr old grandmothers.

While I agree with the statement, some teenagers do. They have life goals that they begin working toward at an early age. They are more driven than most and have the "GRIT" to follow through.

 

[CalebConn16]

As far as I know, the tat policy has been in effect since 1948. It is a well known policy. Didn't say applicants can't have tatoos, just that they can't be visible wearing summer uniform. I agree that there are a lot of great people with visible tats. Can't have facial hair either. Another policy. Didn't just spring these policies on anyone. If you want to be a Trooper, these policies are well known. Don't get a tat that's visible in summer uniform. Can't follow that, how many other "antiquated " policies will they ignore?

Did you know what you wanted to be when you were 18? I sure as shit didn’t. Changed my mind 3 or 4 times before I completely decided. That policy was made when people thought satan would rise through the speaker of your record player if you played rock music too loud. It is time for a change. No policy for any company conceived while SEGREGATION was alive and well deserves to still be on a book without a public vote. That is antiquated and outdated thinking and a problem of their own creation. If they removed the tattoo policy their staffing issues would end tomorrow

 

[KYH5N1]

Did you know what you wanted to be when you were 18? I sure as shit didn’t. Changed my mind 3 or 4 times before I completely decided. That policy was made when people thought satan would rise through the speaker of your record player if you played rock music too loud. It is time for a change. No policy for any company conceived while SEGREGATION was alive and well deserves to still be on a book without a public vote. That is antiquated and outdated thinking and a problem of their own creation. If they removed the tattoo policy their staffing issues would end tomorrow

Sorry, but you're wrong. They may change their policy sometime in the future but that won't change staffing issues. Yes, they may get more applicants but I'd bet that the graduation rate remains the same. It takes a special person to be a Trooper. The kind that over 40% of cadets that start at the Academy either can't, or choose not to be.

 

[KYBOY]

Spoke to two COs yesterday and confirmed a bunch quit and part of the issue was the disparity in raises with KYSP.

I worked for the Ky state "dept of justice"in corrections before I left for the feds.. Its been a long standing gripe in state law enforcement that the "grey gods" (as they are known within the system) are treated like the poster children while everyone else fights for table scraps..
We have literally had to fight for new uniforms while being the 49th lowest paid state in the US.. We'd get broken hand me down's while they got millions worth of new equipment...
This is nothing new guys, its been going on a long time...Ive got no hate on troopers, got a lot of buddies who are troopers but that that dosnt change the facts. They have always been treated differently than the rest of the justice dept..
Simply put its because they are the "face" of law enforcement while the rest are "out of sight, out of mind"..We even had a strike in the early 2000's over it. Though no one knows about it because there was no news coverage and no one cared..

 

[CalebConn16]

Sorry, but you're wrong. They may change their policy sometime in the future but that won't change staffing issues. Yes, they may get more applicants but I'd bet that the graduation rate remains the same. It takes a special person to be a Trooper. The kind that over 40% of cadets that start at the Academy either can't, or choose not to be.

You really think the dudes who went through Paris Island and Graduated into the marine corp couldn’t graduate the academy? Remove your tattoos policy and take in a group of tatted, grunts and marines and that first class would have a 75-80% pass rate. You are absolutely foolish to believe otherwise. You have a bunch of soft ass humans applying now that go in with no chance. The vast majority of the academy is a strategic physical beat down to break you down mentally and turn you into a machine. If that parts already been done the worst parts over.

 

[woodsman92]

I agree the tattoo policy is stupid. How many armed services veterans you know with visible tatts? It’s most that I see. So those guys with tatts are good enough to go overseas into known battle zones and willingly put their life on the line for you but when he comes home we tell him he’s not fit for ksp because of his tatts. Yeah makes a lot of sense

 

[KYH5N1]

You really think the dudes who went through Paris Island and Graduated into the marine corp couldn’t graduate the academy? Remove your tattoos policy and take in a group of tatted, grunts and marines and that first class would have a 75-80% pass rate. You are absolutely foolish to believe otherwise. You have a bunch of soft ass humans applying now that go in with no chance. The vast majority of the academy is a strategic physical beat down to break you down mentally and turn you into a machine. If that parts already been done the worst parts over.

You would be amazed by the number of recruits that don't graduate the academy that are prior military, or prior law enforcement.

 

[predator1]

I never said I’d shoot the fu(k3r. But I’m not going to sit and be entertained that the police aren’t showing up while a good persons property gets f’d up.

Running a crackhead off is kinda like getting a coon off a corn pile. The permanent solution you already mentioned but you can also just shoo them away. You do it often enough they won’t come back.

Downside is that you just interjected yourself into a non life threatening situation that could lead to a life threatening situation. There is no winning in todays society.

I may see 2-3 CO’s a year in passing on the road. I see 2-4 State Troopers a week. So maybe whoever is doing their hiring needs to take over the hiring for KDFWR.

 

[Junglekat]

I don't know about most counties,game wardens are non existent, ohio is a whole lot different,well use to be,I have not hunted there in several years,I watch game warden shows,totally amazed how some states are serious,but ky is not

 

[RLWEBB]

I don’t think the tattoo policy has much to do with recruiting or retaining new Troopers. Salary issues, job duties, expectations, media scrutiny of law enforcement, and retirement options however play a big role.

 

[RLWEBB]

You would be amazed by the number of recruits that don't graduate the academy that are prior military, or prior law enforcement.

I know two guys, that although they made it through the academy, couldn’t handle the job. They were both ex marines. Also know one guy who was an airborne ranger who couldn’t make it through the academy.

 

[RLWEBB]

And the AOC (administrative office of the courts) and the KTC (Kentucky Transportation Cabinet) are at the head of the state government gravy train, most preferred status, or what ever you want to call it. No one else is even close.

 

[carnivore]

I would be interested in knowing the percentages. Hunting violations vs crackhead bust while fishing.

Crackhead fishing has to have its own specific radio code number and i bet its 10-1 lol. Definitely a big hitter in the KY CO FB site