President Trump please back off the tariffs

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ojibwa62, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. ojibwa62

    ojibwa62 12 pointer

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    It is starting to hurt the economy, I know he believes that tariffs work but we are starting to lose jobs.. It is time to stop, tariffs and trade wars do not work in the long term. Anyone who watches the economy and the markets can see the economy is starting to slow..
     
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  2. EdLongshanks

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    Agreed. Let’s not shoot ourselves in the foot. The steel and aluminum tariffs are not working.
     
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  3. Wildcat

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    Has anybody seen China's economy??? They are in the tank. Look at Europe and the protests.

    Pull out now and THEY WIN. We go back to LOSING to them every time. We have lost $5 TRILLION to China in trade since they joined the WTO, hell let's just back off and give them ANOTHER $5 Trillion.

    Anybody ever been in a REAL porker game??? The suckers keep giving and giving little at a time and don't ever know it. The REAL players go home with the real money.
     
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  4. ribsplitter

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    I say bear down harder on them . There is nothing they have that we can't do ourselves . It might hurt for a while but in the long run it's the only way to an independent country. The way it is here now as a country we can't do anything for ourselves it's an embarrassment.
     
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  5. ojibwa62

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    We are looking at a possible economic collapse that will be far worse then 2008..
     
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  6. Wildcat

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    Who says????
     
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  7. EC

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    I see this more as intentional interference with outside concerns...the Federal Reserve, globalist countries dumping the dollar/T-bills--it's an attack.
     
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  8. WildmanWilson

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    So what happens to the US economy if we allow other countries to run over us like a road killed skunk?

    We are the top hog at the trough but we have allowed the little piglets to push us around and take more and more of the food. That’s fine if you don’t care if the piglets get fat all the while we become skin and bones.
     
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  9. ojibwa62

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    Several experts who know way more then me and you.. the current economic climate looks great and unstoppable.. but many companies that left under obama are not coming back and many that are here are starting to slow production some even considering shuttering the window. I like a lot of what Trump has done but tariffs are stupid don't work never have, some say look a the Chinese economy it's slowing down their ecomony has always been on the verge bof collapse , instead of tariffs we should just stop buying their crap.. but you know what happens when a countries economy fails? The often start a war .. you are old enough to know this is bad economic policy, Trump needs to know that you can't bend everyone to your will.
     
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  10. ojibwa62

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    One thing no one talks about anymore us national debt or the debt clock , we talked about it all the time under Bush and Obama, but under Trump crickets.. Trump has added over a trillion in his first two years and it's expected to go higher, we need reign in the spending as well.. like I said I like Trump ( didn't vote for him) but people need to understand he does have some warts ..
     
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  11. Wildcat

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    The experts said OBAMA'S economy was doing GREAT!!!!

    I learned not to believe them. What happened to GM this week is bad management not the economy. They were fools to try to push that car because Obama wanted it and forced them to. Now they are closing that part out.
    The Chinese economy has NEVER looked worse than it is today, the difference is they are a communists govt and can crack down on the people at any minute for any reason. Here in American and Europe the people can protest all they want. Look at France. The people are protesting TAXES, it is so bad they are setting fires on Champs-Elysees in Paris!! That would be the same if the American people set fires on Pennsylvania Ave in Washington D.C. That's NOT happening. Turn off CNN and get the truth. You might want to go back to giving China everything but I do not.

    You said top stop buying from China??? Well that is up to the CUSTOMERS not the govt If the govt stops us from buying from China then that is TARIFFS. Go look around your home, your family's homes, your friends, ever UNION members homes. Look at ALL the NOT made in the USA stuff they have, look at all of it. THAT is OUR fault, we all bought it to save a little money while giving China $5 TRILLION in profits. That $5 TRILLION could have gone to pay for new ROADS, BRIDGES, SCHOOLS, MILITARY, etc, etc. Instead it all went to China because we feared them and they would start an economy war. How about YOU starting buying everything for Christmas MADE IN THE USA!!!! The rest of us will follow YOUR led.

    I know and understand what Trump is doing
     
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  12. carnivore

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    Nobody thinks permanent tariffs are a good idea. They are a negotiating tactic. We can hurt them more than they can hurt us. I like that he has the balls to put other trade “partners” in their place. Stay the course and have some courage and faith.
     
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  13. ojibwa62

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    We created the monster that is the Chinese ecomony, we could have killed it long ago but our lust for cheaply made affordable crap made us blind to fact we where enabling our own destroyer.. it's gonna be real hard to put that genie back in the bottle. I understand anything we get from China we can make here put it's not that easy, you just don't start up a manufacturing facility over night , it can take months or years.. So there is going to be some pain either way..
     
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  14. Feedman

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    There has always been tariffs. Trump just raised ours to make things more equal. He is trying to less the trade imbalances
     
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  15. Meatstick

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    He's done this shit before, many times I'm sure (smaller scale maybe.) I believe the man knows what he's doing. He's a business man no doubt. Let him take care of business
     
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