Podcast for habitat junkies

Discussion in 'Habitat Improvement' started by Deertrainer, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Stone Branch

    Stone Branch Spike

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    My habitat plate is pretty full this season so I may just widen the perimeter and cut down some good trails.

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  2. ojibwa62

    ojibwa62 12 pointer

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    And what I'm talking about is mainly small farms I've owned 3 all just under 100ac my current farm is much smaller.
    I guess the point I was trying to make and didn't make it very well is you can have summer deer without a lot of plots and also have good doe fawning areas.

    If there is a lot of AG around you even better, some of the properties I have helped manage are huge with lots of AG..
     
  3. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    Stone Branch said:

    “I agree with what the fellas said in the podcast hinging is a tool and implement a little here and there.”

    That was all the encouragement I needed to run out and take some quick hinge-related pics.

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  4. Stone Branch

    Stone Branch Spike

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    That looks like a good use of hinge cuts, not a wholesale waylaying of trees but more of creating some visual blocking and structure. I kind of think of it as creating structure in a fish pond. Deer really like to bed along such structure.

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  5. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    Thank you sir. You are correct, I never hinge large areas.
     
  6. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    Jake Ehlinger is one of my favorite deer habitat dudes. Did you have good results using him on your property?
     
  7. ojibwa62

    ojibwa62 12 pointer

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    That's an analogy I use a lot deer relate to there habitat the same way fish relate to structure and cover..
     
  8. Deertrainer

    Deertrainer Fawn

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    Yea, Jake is great guy. He does nice job of developing habitat plan. I've talked him several times since always have good time talking to him.
     
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  9. Deertrainer

    Deertrainer Fawn

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    Sorry Stone Branch my property is in Morgan county near West Liberty. In Michigan live south of Battle Creek.
     
  10. Deertrainer

    Deertrainer Fawn

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    I'm actually coming down this weekend to meet 2nd time with wildlife biologist about using the WHIP program. I wanted to thin my timber and seems to gonna make me some money and promote more natural browse for deer.
     
  11. Stone Branch

    Stone Branch Spike

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    I walked my property with the wildland biologist in Iowa and at the end of our visit his one suggestion to me was to keep doing what I'm doing.

    In Iowa if one wanted to get into a program for TSI you had to meet with the forester man, which I never did. I looked into the programs but deemed the set parameters and time constraints to be way too constricting for my habitat style.

    One expert I do hold in high regard, Dr. Craig Harper. Unlike most old and recycled/repackaged information I found this information to be rather fresh and enlightening and something anyone interested in upping their game should take hold of.



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  12. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    Deertrainer, do you have any theories as to why hingecutting is seen to be useful in Michigan but not in KY?
    STRATEGIC hingecutting has probably done more to improve hunting here on our place than any other habitat improvement I’ve done.
    It seems like if I hinge at 5 feet or higher, deer want to walk underneath it, even if they don’t have to.
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    If I cut low, new limbs will grow up from the trunk, that first offers fresh browse, then grows into a visual screen.
    There is a food plot behind this hingecut. Before I made this cut, bucks would look into the plot from a long way away, see no does, then jump the property line fence and get shot. Now, they literally cannot see into this little plot without getting into shooting range.
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  13. Stone Branch

    Stone Branch Spike

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    Hinge cutting is no more effective in Mi than Ky. It is probably more perceived to be so effective in Mi because it is more of the fade of the day in Mi.

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  14. Stone Branch

    Stone Branch Spike

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    Another possibility maybe that Mi has far less terrain variation than does Ky. So deer may relate more to some structure in Mi where's in Ky terrain will always trump where a deer will bed over any hinge cut.

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  15. Stone Branch

    Stone Branch Spike

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    In Iowa a buck will bed on a ridge under a lone cedar or next to a big fallen oak where he can see down below with the wind at his back no matter whether or not there are hinge cuts. The same probably holds true in Ky. Hinge cuts may actually hinder a bucks choice to bed there because of reduced mobility and vision.

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