I'll get this going again. A little perspective.......or not. Last week i got to spend some time with my NM outfitter friend, told him about the back and forth on here about big cats. His background, has been outfitting for 31 yrs in and around the Gila National Forest. He said he spends 275-300 days a year in the field, usually around 10 hrs/day. Also, that area has a healthy population of mtn lions. I asked him if he has seen lions while he's out, after laughing, he said you could count on both hands how many lions he has seen outside of hunting them. I asked if he had walked up on, or driven up on a lion. he said no way unless you're being stalked or there is something wrong with them (sick). He said he has driven a couple of hundred thousand miles on back roads and mountain trails, never seeing a cat. He said the closest he's seen one was a half mile across a canyon while glassing. They do have cats on trail cams as they put out cameras on hot game trails (verified tracks) or over scratches (like a deer scrape). He asked what the theory was on how cats supposedly got to Ky, swim across the Mississippi? I told him i had no idea. Has anyone on here heard of that theory?