Owen County Deer Harvest

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  1. Sako_280

    Sako_280 Fawn

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    Owen County hunters, I bought some property and have been hunting Owen for the past 8 years. I noticed Owen county is on pace for another consecutive 20 year low deer harvest. I charted some data from the KDFWR webisite, well below the 20 year avg again this season.

    Just curious if anyone on here has any theories on the decline. I've personally noticed a large increase in the number of coyotes on trailcams, especially in the spring, and a large decrease in the number of doe with fawns. I saw several mature doe with no fawns, a few with one and none with two.

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    Anyone else have any thoughts?
     
  2. hollandhunter

    hollandhunter 12 pointer

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    Im not so much worried about the deer in my area as I am the turkeys. Im seeing a lot of deer just nothing I want to shoot. Now turkeys on the other hand have became non existent. An this is on farms that use to be super good. Not looking good for the spring. But eitherway yes the predators are out of control. I roll everyone I see an still don't out a dent in them I don't think.
     
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  3. Sako_280

    Sako_280 Fawn

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    Same here, I rolled one last year in bow season, but they're pretty crafty and seem to go nocturnal in gun season. Gonna have to learn to trap this spring.
     
  4. barney

    barney 12 pointer

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    I thought herd reduction was the plan?
     
  5. huntmadd

    huntmadd 8 pointer

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    Everyone is being more selective on bucks and shooting less doe I believe.
     
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  6. kyduck1

    kyduck1 6 pointer

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    Talking with a buddy the other day yotes are really tough to manage. Even if you kill a bunch they'll populate and or travel to where they have ample food and cover. It's an interesting idea. I don't think by any means they are saying don't do it, but just don't expect to ever really make a dent in the population on your area of land.
     
  7. Sako_280

    Sako_280 Fawn

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    Makes sense, that's definitely what I have been doing. I was fortunate to get a nice buck this year, and could have shot plenty of doe...only added 1 to the county's total.
     
  8. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    ^^^^^ This is what’s happening in my neighborhood.

    Sako_280, I like the way you charted that out.

    Something I’ve wondered is how much the number of deer killed is tied to the actual deer population/number of deer seen. In other words, are fewer deer being taken by choice, or lack of opportunity?
     
  9. ojibwa62

    ojibwa62 12 pointer

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    Quantity is down, what about quality? they don't normally go hand and hand.
     
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  10. Iceman35

    Iceman35 12 pointer

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    If coyotes are the issue, then we're screwed. Not only are they tough to manage, they actually have a gene within them that causes the females to produce bigger litters of pups when the local population is preasurred from hunting or displacement.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/08/coyote-america-dan-flores-history-science/
     
  11. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    Same here. Usually, around here, this time of year, birds are flocked up. You go a few days without seeing any, then you see a dozen or so.
    This year, we only have one Tom that we see in our food plots. When deer come in to the plots, he tries to stay right beside them, like they’re all part of a flock or something.
     
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  12. Sako_280

    Sako_280 Fawn

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    I wonder the same thing. Its definitely possible fewer are taken by choice around here. I shot a fairly mature buck on the first Wednesday, saw 6-8 younger bucks the first 3 days of gun season. I still think the harvest data and density are somewhat related, just not sure how much.

    Anyone know if the number of points and inside spread data is available from KDFWR?
     
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  13. Sako_280

    Sako_280 Fawn

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    Geesh! Lack of fawns in my area this year had me concerned. Going to try my hand at trapping, time will tell i guess.
     
  14. rlb165

    rlb165 10 pointer

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    Not to hijack the thread, but here’s the lonely Tom I was talking about earlier. The top picture with the little buck is where I made a line of licking branches along the edge of one of our food plots. I didn’t realize it until I walked away, but it looks like a browse line from a distance 91DE758A-856C-41E5-90E8-2A8E8A5F9840.jpeg 8B39EF05-3353-401E-875D-FAE8B58E58E4.png 4A37FEC4-54BE-43CA-85B6-E7499028F9DD.png
     
  15. Sako_280

    Sako_280 Fawn

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    I have not seen any sort of decline in the turkey in my area. There was a flock of a dozen or so Toms I saw on a regular basis from the stand, and plenty of hens to go around. Are you in Owen as well?
     
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