Obama & sportsmen issues

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  1. Manzanita

    Manzanita 12 pointer

    Apr 16, 2006
    Telecheck 018
    I got my AK trained to go out by itself and kill anything that moves. It's a cold blooded forest ninja. It patrols the north and west property lines at night and I send the SKS out on the south and east sides.

    On the downside, my Ruger 10/22 and my Remington 1100 are getting the big head now because they think they're semiautomatic assault rifles now and all important and stuff. They're almost insufferable. I think the wood stocks are even turning all black and plasticky.

    Oh wait. What am I talking about. I sold all those guns, along with a bunch of others ones, just last week. Can't remember to whom.

    That gun ban has worked so well for Chicago... :rolleyes: , it only stands to reason that the socialists want to expand it nationwide.
  2. Wildcat

    Wildcat 12 pointer

    Jan 7, 2002
    Ledbetter, Ky.

    This post just showed how little you know about crime and firearms. The gun with the most murder rate is a simple handgun. Look it up for your self.
    Last edited: May 6, 2008
  3. yote hunter

    yote hunter 12 pointer

    Oct 30, 2004
    bullitt county
    its all about race with some of you guys white kids acting black,brown guns trying to turn black.next thing youll be complaining about is your shotguns sitting around listning to rap music:D
  4. turkeytalker

    turkeytalker Banned

    Nov 3, 2004

    This election can easily be split pro-life / pro-death.


    "" When the federal bill was being debated, NARAL Pro-Choice America released a statement that said, “Consistent with our position last year, NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act ... floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.”

    But Obama voted against this bill in the Illinois senate and killed it in committee. Twice, the Induced Infant Liability Act came up in the Judiciary Committee on which he served. At its first reading he voted “present.” At the second he voted “no.”

    The bill was then referred to the senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired after the Illinois Senate went Democratic in 2003. As chairman, he never called the bill up for a vote.

    Jill Stanek, a registered delivery-ward nurse who was the prime mover behind the legislation after she witnessed aborted babies’ being born alive and left to die, testified twice before Obama in support of the Induced Infant Liability Act bills. She also testified before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

    Stanek told me her testimony “did not faze” Obama.

    In the second hearing, Stanek said, “I brought pictures in and presented them to the committee of very premature babies from my neonatal resuscitation book from the American Pediatric Association, trying to show them unwanted babies were being cast aside. Babies the same age were being treated if they were wanted!”

    “And those pictures didn’t faze him [Obama] at all,” she said.

    At the end of the hearing, according to the official records of the Illinois State senate, Obama thanked Stanek for being “very clear and forthright,” but said his concern was that Stanek had suggested “doctors really don’t care about children who are being born with a reasonable prospect of life because they are so locked into their pro-abortion views that they would watch an infant that is viable die.” He told her, “That may be your assessment, and I don’t see any evidence of that. What we are doing here is to create one more burden on a woman and I can’t support that.”

    As a senator, Obama has opposed measures to criminalize those who transport minors across state lines for the purpose of obtaining an abortion.

    At a townhall meeting in Ottawa, Ill., Joanne Resendiz, a teacher and mother of five, asked him: “How are you going to vote on this, keeping in mind that 10, 15 years down the line your daughters, God forbid, could be transported across state lines?”

    Obama said: “The decision generally is one that a woman should make.” ""
  5. aceoky

    aceoky 12 pointer

    Jul 14, 2003
    W KY
    Both great posts and ALL TOO True......
  6. AteUp

    AteUp 12 pointer

    Mar 14, 2004
    BTW, Mcain was the only one to get invited to speak at the NRA convention here in Louisville this month.
  7. nwest

    nwest 12 pointer

    Good one I almost spit coke on my CPU screen:D
  8. kytrapper

    kytrapper 10 pointer

    Mar 14, 2005
    Whitley County
    Here is a prime example of the type of support Obama has.

    Well. Nobody in my family is or has been on welfare. I do have one friend on food stamps though

    No food stamps anymore youngn'. They have a debit card now. Your "friend" must be in Dick Gephardt's world if you know what that means.

    You said " I graduating in a few days"

    I don't doubt you are ok. I have an otherwise intelligent friend who's a registered Dem. He works for the state. And I know what I think won't matter a whit to you. Don't be suprised if in 10 or 20 years you look back and see how wrong you were. As for middle aged grandpa liberals who think progressive sounds a little less guilty ,who knows about that one?
    What is hard for young men your age to understand and have the vision to know is how this country was 20 or 30 years ago and the direction we're heading. Even Dems then weren't so far left. Obama is a trojan horse for Marxism and so is Hillary. She's just smarter and better at hiding it. McCain is not near conservative enough. That's his problem. Ronald Reagan's don't come around very often. You should have known what it was like to have him running the country.
  9. BurleyDog

    BurleyDog 10 pointer

    Jul 4, 2007
    Obama has the educated vote wrapped up.

    Hillary does well with people that do not have college degrees and almost 20% of her support this election has come from people that say race is a factor in their voting.

    So, just because I made a spelling error on a internet forum does not reflect that the Obama supporters are dumb.

    Look guys. I really value your ardent support for the Second Amendment. I agree with you on it.
    What I have been trying to say all along is that in this election it does not come down to this one issue. If you really think Obama would take away your guns if elected then you have been seriously misled. The President does not have that kind of power in our country even if he wanted to do that. I don't think he will even adress the 2nd Amendment when elected.

    The whole notion that I am liberal is wrong. Like I said I voted for McCain twice before (in the primaries) and I share many conservative values. To say that I am somehow stupid because I support Obama is wrong.

    Like I said earlier. There is no right or wrong side politically. There are good and bad Democrats and Republicans. Think of all the examples we have of politicians doing immoral crap. They are not all Democrats.

    So when voting for the next President I would strong encourage everyone to look at the personal lives of the candidates. OK, Obama had a stupid pastor. He dealt with it Presidentially and moved on. McCain also has stupid people he associates with. He also has not reflected my values in his personal life - using prostitutes, cheating on his disabled wife, marrying a woman with questionable morals, etc.

    Obama is a better man than McCain. period. And he is smarter, more level headed and will make a better President.

    I am not going to respond anymore if you guys just attack me personally.
    BTW I know very little about food stamps- I do know that the slang term for them is still "food stamps" but I am aware that it is a credit card now.
  10. gobblergetter

    gobblergetter 8 pointer

    Apr 21, 2008
    boonville, Indiana
    Why is it do you think that McCain and many Republicans vote the way they do on gun laws? For you? You may be the ones misled. How much money does McCain and other Republicans (as well as Dem's too) receive from the NRA and other Special Interest Groups/PAC's in return for their votes? Of course he was the only one invited to the NRA convention. Obama didn't take money from them for votes. This is a prime example of the type of corruption there is in Washington (on both sides) and the type of change Obama brings to the table that so many want to see.

    Ditto Burley on your last post. It seems that alot of the people on this thread are into personal attacks when someone has a different viewpoint than they do. I don't know that I could've said it any better or differently than you.

    Many times I've heard we (obama supporters) are wrong and they (whoever they is) are right. Has anyone ever thought it may be the other way around? Or just maybe that none of us are right. You right wingers are just as set in your ways as you accuse us of being in ours. You are as far to the right as you claim we are to the left. It is this divide among politicians that needs to change and Obama is the only one I've heard promoting this change. If it were a Republican candidate, I'd vote for him/her. Every other candidate seems to be talking about more of the same right/left battles that have been in place in Washington for years and gotten us into the mess we're in right now. Vote for the vision the candidate supports not the party line.
  11. deadaim

    deadaim 12 pointer

    Dec 12, 2001
    Booger Hollar
    Please enlighten me and the forum as to what CHANGE Obama is promising.......Ive asked this question of several Obama supporters without an answer maybe you can.
  12. aceoky

    aceoky 12 pointer

    Jul 14, 2003
    W KY
    YOU are "overlooking the obvious" here , there will likely be TWO SCOTUS Justices leave during the next Presidential Term

    THE PRESIDENT does in fact appoint their replacements and IF it's a Dem with a Dem controlled Congress, it's not hard to know which type Justice that will be OR their stance on the Second Amendment would be either.......:eek:

    So, YES the President does in Fact "have that kind of power"......

    And don't so easily dismiss the "Executive Order" ........:eek:
  13. gobblergetter

    gobblergetter 8 pointer

    Apr 21, 2008
    boonville, Indiana

    As far as oil dependency check my posts on the "Oil at Record High" thread.

    A change from a Washington that is controlled by lobbyists and PAC's

    A change from the trillion's of dollars spent on a war in Iraq

    A change from the bipartisan bickering that doesn't get anything done.

    A change from two separate parties tearing American down instead of unifying American and getting things done.

    Just to name a few.:D
  14. deadaim

    deadaim 12 pointer

    Dec 12, 2001
    Booger Hollar
    So Obama Change Means:

    Oil : So more regulations and no new drilling ( and no reduction in taxes)

    Washington: Now controlled by moveon.org

    Iraq : Cut and run and fight terrorists on our own soil just forget about the sacrifice we have made in lives

    Bickering : Will never stop I dont care who is president

    Unification : A unified socialist America god that makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside................
  15. kytrapper

    kytrapper 10 pointer

    Mar 14, 2005
    Whitley County
    I went to read that "Oil at record high" thread. I hope you aren't an English or spelling teacher.

    Interesting point. In the other thread it was claimed that Obama wasn't for conservationists/sportsmen but that is exactly the reason he apposes the drilling in ANWAR
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