Northwoods

Jan 21, 2008
80
Butler Kentucky
Grouseguy: Our Kentucky group has heard that the drumming count is expected to be low and west nile is a significant cause. I don't know whether the source is reliable and hope it is not. Do you have any information for us?
 

Bee

10 pointer
Mar 14, 2005
1,637
Grouseguy: Our Kentucky group has heard that the drumming count is expected to be low and west nile is a significant cause. I don't know whether the source is reliable and hope it is not. Do you have any information for us?

Im not Grouseguy obviously, but there is a source for more information and opinions than anyone can absorb on the Great lakes grouse issues and WNV in the Upland Journal web site. I will roughly summarize some of it: WNV is being found in some states but it apparently is believed by the biologists to be an insignificant factor compared to abnormally wet and cold weather the last few springs which many think is the main culprit in the low grouse numbers in Minn, Mich, Wis. Reliable Locals report hearing basically no drumming in some areas and few grouse sightings on roads since last season. Some pockets are claimed by others to be as good as ever. Not much free information about where those pockets are located. The grouse hunting is an industry in those states. IMO Many there dont want to report the low numbers due to tourism dollars at risk. The problem for traveling bird hunters is that there is no "high bird numbers" destination anywhere in US this year. Pick your poison from state to state an species to species: too much rain and flooding , too little rain and drought, disease, too much hunting pressure, etc etc.
 
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grouseguy

12 pointer
Dec 9, 2001
6,218
Phillips, WI / Grayson, KY
I’m actually in WI now.

Basically, the whole hatch was lost last year, so it would make sense that drumming was down this year.

My understanding is that WNV has been confirmed in some Great Lake states, but not WI so far.

Chicks have hatched in the past week or so, and the weather here is perfect now.

This year, more than most, will largely depend on reproduction and survival... so far looks good, but the next couple of months will tell the tale.
 

Bee

10 pointer
Mar 14, 2005
1,637
the wisconsin 2018 drumming survey results , just released, show a 34% drumming decrease from last year. It makes sense that it would be lower due to the lower number of birds present last fall, and it is only those birds that actually survived the hunting season and the winter that are out there to drum this spring.


I'm told by some locals that generally the weather for the hatch period in last several weeks has been very good , with warmer temps and little heavy rain. A bountiful poults crop would sure help the rebound if , as some claim , there is not a WNV or other such disease issue to deal with. Minnesota drum counts are released later in summer.
 

Bee

10 pointer
Mar 14, 2005
1,637
Just when it looked like there was hope for a decent hatch, much of northern wisconsin reportedly received 6 to 10 inches of rain in last few days, and this apparently in considered prime hatch period there. not good at all.
 

Bee

10 pointer
Mar 14, 2005
1,637
sure is quiet on this topic....tarbaby he dont say nuttin ? , or in reality is there nothing to say.?
 
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Deadbeat

6 pointer
Feb 4, 2008
364
Frenchburg
I'm leaving on Oct. 18th, plan on walking a lot and shooting a few birds, watching the dog work. I really hope I hit the woodcock good if the grouse continue to decline.
 

KY Grouse Hunter

6 pointer
Nov 2, 2007
274
Southeastern Kentucky
Northwoods Thread Prediction:
1. 98% of the population viewing this thread going north will realistically average anywhere from 10-20 flush days (probably more the latter).
2. The top 2% of the population of this thread going north will "supposedly" average anywhere from 60-740 flush days, will limit everyday, and win the lottery without playing.
 

Bee

10 pointer
Mar 14, 2005
1,637
Northwoods Thread Prediction:
1. 98% of the population viewing this thread going north will realistically average anywhere from 10-20 flush days (probably more the latter).
2. The top 2% of the population of this thread going north will "supposedly" average anywhere from 60-740 flush days, will limit everyday, and win the lottery without playing.


in other words it will be just like the last 30 years in all respects.....
 


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