New Thoughts on Spygate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Regulator623, May 28, 2019.

  1. Regulator623

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  2. Wildcat

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    That guy understands what really went on.
     
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  3. High Rack

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    The swamp is starting to boil.
     
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  4. Wildcat

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    Borrowed this from a friend on the same subject.

    Basically, this is how it now appears:

    Barack Obama authorized illegal spying, using the IRS, the FBI, and other government agencies.

    Imagine, how could any republican candidate win any major election when these democratic operatives were actually listening to their phone conversations?

    They knew every move the Trump Campaign was going to make, in advance.
    Perhaps, their undoing, now being "found out", was in part due to their overconfidence that Hillary could not possibly lose?

    Think of the HUGE (albeit illegal, treasonous) advantage THEY GAVE Hillary over Trump in winning the 2016 Presidency.

    And all this on top of her receiving debate questions in advance, giving Hillary clear advantage with well researched polished answers, while Trump was left to "wing it".

    EVEN IF the Russians could have actually done much to effect our 2016 Presidential election,
    it pales in comparison to what these government "leaders" actually did,
    both to "throw" a Presidential election, then later, in attempting to illegally oust a sitting President.

    Ironically, by all appearances, the Russians actually preferred a President Hillary over a President Trump.
    Go figure.
     
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  5. ptbrauch

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    And don't forget this quote:

    "If that f*<&ing bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!"

    I wonder what that could be in reference to? :rolleyes:
     
  6. EdLongshanks

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    Where is our dear friend Grouse guy?!?:p
     
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  7. ojibwa62

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    I thought this was going to be about the New England Patriots.. ;)
     
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  8. Coot_Meurer

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    I am a skeptics skeptic - and rarely believe that most politicians are competent enough to pull off something like this and keep it secret.

    However, I do know Chicago and its politics, and that area is as crooked (and has been for at least the last 150 years) as any political machine anywhere. Obama came out of that cesspool, and brought his turd collection with him. It is plausible, probable even, that they Chicago-ized the political machines in DC and did all of that which has been suggested above.
     
  9. Bubbles

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    He still visits daily. He is just trying to avoid everyone after the Mueller report. i am sure he is just biding his time waiting for them to catch Trump on something in which he will come back and say "i told ya so!"

    So, for now he is in his safe space.
     
  10. ojibwa62

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    As much as you and all the others disliked the forum liberal it was nice to have another opinion from time to time instead of everyone here sitting in a circle pleasuring themselves and preaching to the choir..

    If we can't from time to time find common ground this country and republic is finished .
     
  11. WildmanWilson

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    I think the corruption in our government is beyond what most of us could even imagine in a movie. Most Americans don’t track politics beyond a few weeks at election time if even that so they don’t care or believe the amount of corruption that’s going on if they do hear about it. Trump has exposed it and he’s only scratching the surface.
     
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  12. EdLongshanks

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    Curious as to what common ground you think can be achieved with communists?
     
  13. ojibwa62

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    zero there is no common ground with true communist...
    Not everyone one on the left are communist however and just calling them communist doesn't make them one.. We do have a problem with socialist , anarchist and Communist in this country but calling everyone on the left a communist is counterproductive.
    There are some good although misinformed Democrats in the middle of the country , many own guns hunt , fish and own 4x4s and are pretty much like you and me. They just gree up with a granddad or dad who always voted Dem. They just don't understand how much the party has changed.
    Then you have the wackjobs on both coasts now that's another story.

    You change hearts and minds by talking to people not at them and not by calling them names or throwing labels on them..
     
  14. EdLongshanks

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    Yes....100% the democrat party platform has morphed into the communist manifesto. That’s just a fact. Have you heard the democrat candidate campaign promises? The moderate democrat no longer exists. That ship has sailed long ago. There is no common ground. Zero. They hate this country and are trying to destroy it. This only ends one way.
     
  15. ojibwa62

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    You are correct about national Democrats but I refer to state and local level Democrats the avg man or woman , far from communist.. Those are are ones we need to work on they are just parroting what they have always been told or hear on CNN..
    They, many are just ignorant of the facts but not stupid..
     

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