I'm in the market for a new rifle. I've always hunted a 30.30 and am looking at the Savage Axis .270 or 30.06. I'm going to hunt with it but am also looking for long distance practice. Which would be a better buy? I've never shot either caliber. Which one will have a longer distance? Thanks for any help and advice.
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Mainbeam
12 pointer
- Jul 7, 2012
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For the money I would recommend a marlin in 25-06 mine shoots FLAT and no recoil with plenty of thump for white tails. Hard to go wrong with this setup IMO .
mwezell
12 pointer
Yep, toss a coin. I'd give the edge to the '06 because of wider selection of bullets, both factory loaded and components...by a large margin. That's really the achilles heal of the .270 is that there simply aren't near as many load options for them, even as common as a .270 is.
JDMiller
12 pointer
As far as the manufacture....dont overlook the Stevens 200 ...also made by Savage. Comparitively priced with the Axis...and basically it's the old Savage 110 action...definitely proven. I've got one in 22-250 and would'nt trade it for any other.
Concerning the 30-06 vs. 270..... my first 270 was when I was 16...and all I used deer hunting to this year....and I'm now 45. Which I'm switching to a 30-06 this season.
My primary reason was the 30-06 and available range of bullet offerings...you can hunt just about anything...125 gr...all the way to 220gr loads. As mentioned...the 270...even as popular as it is....your pretty much looking at 130gr through 150gr... and as it is here in Ky by reg....the minimum for elk although debatable...as it is in a few other states.
I love a 270...so dont get me wrong...great caliber...but I'm really liking the 30-06. But..if I were in your shoes...going from a 30-30....I'd go with the 30-06 on the beginning... which I wish I had done early on. Pretty much one gun for most big game you may pursue in the future....cant really say that unobjectively about a 270.
Also....might not be what your looking for...but on the other end of the scale...you might consider a 243...another really versitile caliber from deer sized game.. to varmints. Wide range of bullet weights / offerings, low recoil...and definitely long range trajectory.
I've got a BIL older than me ...all he has ever hunted with...taken a lot of good deer with it as well.
patiodaddy
10 pointer
30-06, easier to find ammo and if you want to reload you can get slugs from as light as 100 grains thru 220 grains and you can hunt anything in North America with it. As for buying a rifle why don't you go look at the used guns at a Gun Store/Pawn Shop? For just a pinch more you can find a Remington or a Winchester maybe. Most "Deer" rifles that you see have been shot very little, you know...........guys get all wicked up and go buy a nice rifle and maybe,MAYBE shoot it about 20 shots a year (if that much) and then quit hunting or they want a AR-15 or a High Cap pistol and they trade the gun in on them. Look around a bit before you decide, it's always fun to wander the Gun stores & Pawn Shops.
scsims
10 pointer
For long distance either will be fine as far as caliber goes, you will have a harder time finding a factory load for your factory gun that will consistantly hold good enough groups for your long range practice. But there is always the exception. If you go with the 30 cal and ever think you would want to shoot the heavier bullets over the 180gr mark I'd make sure it had a 1-10" twist.
daking
12 pointer
- Dec 29, 2004
- 2,604
Ruger American in .270. Just got one and love it!
mulehead
10 pointer
I just bought the new marlin x7s 243 for under 300. Right out of the box first 3 shots with in an inch of each other. Adjustable trigger. Please ck this gun out before u go make your final decision they come in stainless and blue. From 243 through 7mm sweet shooting gun 1 in 10 twist. Nice gun mounted with 3x12x50 weaver got it dialed in after 9 shots 3shots with in quarter
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WILD
12 pointer
just dont spend alot of money,as guys mentioned.get a savage or stevens or the new marlin.all them guns are good shooters out of the box,and all should be moa shooters,just read the reviews.and i would say save your money and get one of those....maybe get you another latter on in life,but thats what i would do for now..goodluck.
WILD
12 pointer
did you know the 7mm-08 hangs with the 30-06 in enegy and distance,i think i would get that over a .270,and alot less recoil,the 7mm-08 is a bad little dude,and its also the most gravity deffieny bullet ever made(7mm).....really that is one of my top favorite calibers..plus its a short action ,so bolt cycle will b a little faster..i think you would really like that caliber,if you just do some comparrision you will see were i am coming from on the 7mm-08..,plus you could let the wife and kid use it if you ever wanted to upgrade to a bigger caliber,but it would have to b a magnum to see the difference in energy and distance.but there not that much difference in the 3 if you check...then maybe you can get you a bigger caliber next year...just throuwhing that idea out therefor ya...even with a 30-06 with a 150 gr and a 7mm-08 140 has got the -06 beat,just look for yourself..
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WILD
12 pointer
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx
here u go..just look....bad little dude
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx..
i think you will have to type the calibers one at a time though...but here is why i like this little round so much...check it out.and its also a common elk caliber,got em on you tube sgooting elk at 700 yrda drooping right in there tracks..and if you go with the hornady supperformance ammo you will get up to 200 fps and more energy and distance,also a good yote gun...
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx
here u go..just look....bad little dude
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx..
i think you will have to type the calibers one at a time though...but here is why i like this little round so much...check it out.and its also a common elk caliber,got em on you tube sgooting elk at 700 yrda drooping right in there tracks..and if you go with the hornady supperformance ammo you will get up to 200 fps and more energy and distance,also a good yote gun...
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Here's the comparison between the two using Remington Core Lokts.
.30-06 Bullet Muzzle100 200 300 400 500
Velocity: Remington® Express® 150 2910 2617 2342 2083 1843 1622
Energy: Remington® Express® 150 2820 2281 1827 1445 1131 876
Trajectory: Remington® Express® 150 1.8 1.6 zero -3.2 -8.2 -24.4 -50.9
7mm-08
Velocity: Remington® Express® 140 2860 2625 2402 2189 1988 1798
Energy: Remington® Express® 140 2542 2142 1793 1490 1228 1005
Trajectory: Remington® Express® 140 1.8 1.6 zero -3.1 -7.8 -22.9 -46.8
.270
Velocity: Remington® Express® 150 2850 2504 2183 1886 1618 1385
Energy: Remington® Express® 150 2705 2087 1587 1185 872 639
Trajectory: Remington® Express® 150 2.0 1.8 zero -3.6 -9.4 -28.6 -61.2
.30-06 Bullet Muzzle100 200 300 400 500
Velocity: Remington® Express® 150 2910 2617 2342 2083 1843 1622
Energy: Remington® Express® 150 2820 2281 1827 1445 1131 876
Trajectory: Remington® Express® 150 1.8 1.6 zero -3.2 -8.2 -24.4 -50.9
7mm-08
Velocity: Remington® Express® 140 2860 2625 2402 2189 1988 1798
Energy: Remington® Express® 140 2542 2142 1793 1490 1228 1005
Trajectory: Remington® Express® 140 1.8 1.6 zero -3.1 -7.8 -22.9 -46.8
.270
Velocity: Remington® Express® 150 2850 2504 2183 1886 1618 1385
Energy: Remington® Express® 150 2705 2087 1587 1185 872 639
Trajectory: Remington® Express® 150 2.0 1.8 zero -3.6 -9.4 -28.6 -61.2
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WILD
12 pointer
and thats with the core locks...look at the accue tips and other ballistic tip bullets,,u get a little more with them.
