More Flag Talk....

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  1. EdLongshanks

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    Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that invalidated prohibitions on desecrating the American flag enforced in 48 of the 50 states. Justice William Brennan wrote for a five-justice majority in holding that the defendant Gregory Lee Johnson's act of flag burning was protected speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Johnson was represented by attorneys David D. Cole and William Kunstler.
     
  2. EdLongshanks

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    I don't like it and you don't like it....but it is protected.
     
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  3. Xi Bowhunter

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    Is that still implemented today? First I have heard of it.
     
  4. EdLongshanks

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    As far as I know. I'm not sure (other than a constitutional amendment) how it would be reversed.
     
  5. AteUp

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    525.010������Definitions for chapter.
    The following definitions apply in this chapter unless the context otherwise requires:
    (1) "Desecrate" means defacing, damaging, polluting, or otherwise physically
    mistreating in a way that the actor knows will outrage the sensibilities of
    persons likely to observe or discover his action.

    (2) "Public" means affecting or likely to affect a substantial group of persons.
    (3) "Public place" means a place to which the public or a substantial group of
    persons has access and includes but is not limited to highways, transportation
    facilities, schools, places of amusements, parks, places of business,
    playgrounds, and hallways, lobbies, and other portions of apartment houses
    and hotels not constituting rooms or apartments designed for actual residence.
    An act is deemed to occur in a public place if it produces its offensive or
    proscribed consequences in a public place.
    (4) "Transportation facility" means any conveyance, premises, or place used for

    525.110 Desecration of venerated objects, second degree.
    (1) A person is guilty of desecration of venerated objects in the second degree when he
    intentionally:
    (a) Desecrates any public monument or object or place of worship; or
    (b) Desecrates in a public place the national or state flag or other patriotic or religious
    symbol which is an object of veneration by the public or a substantial segment
    thereof.

    (2) Desecration of venerated objects in the second degree is a Class A misdemeanor.
    Effective: July 14, 1992
    History: Amended 1992 Ky. Acts ch. 420, sec. 3, effective July 14, 1992. –Amended 1988 Ky.
    Acts ch. 119, sec. 2, effective March 30, 1988. -- Created 1974 Ky. Acts ch. 406, sec. 221,
    effective January 1, 1975.
     
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  6. Xi Bowhunter

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    So, does this trump the Texas Vs. Johnson case mentioned above in Kentucky? I would hope so.
     
  7. EdLongshanks

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    No. Texas vs Johnson is a Supreme Court ruling. Flag burning and desecration is considered political speech and thus protected by the first amendment.
     
  8. Xi Bowhunter

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    Well thank you for bringing this to my attention.

    With that being said, I think I have now lost all respect for the institution of the supreme court. What a terrible decision.
     
  9. EC

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    The Supreme Court also ruled that pornography is "free speech". But yet they're moving toward classifying some sermons as "hate speech". You can't even bring up homosexuality vis a vis as sinful in Canadian churches. They'll throw you in jail if you do. Just a matter of time we have this here.


    The Mayor of Houston already tried to subpoena all the Church sermons to scan for "hate speech".

    You ain't in America. It has been conquered.


    Houston subpoenas Church Sermons for Hate Speech
    http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q4/houston-subpoenas-church-sermons-hate-speech/
     
  10. ptbrauch

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    Just attention seekers. Ignore them.
     
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