Mandatory testing at UK now for the unvaccinated

Brown Dogs Matter

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Jun 7, 2004
2,407
Louisville, KY.
When China welded that apartment door shut in hazmat suits did it for me.
Do we know that really happened? I also saw the video and know that the group who released it had an agenda to make the Communist Chinese Party look bad. Based on the decided lack of bodies stacking up around the U.S., I have my doubts about the legitimacy of that video.

Use some critical thinking skills. My example is always the homeless population. They are grouped in close quarters, don't wear masks for the most part - and their habits take away any benefit a mask would have, and are in relative poor health compared to the general population. Lots of substance abuse issues, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, etc. I know this firsthand, as I dealt with the homeless population for two decades.

So, if COVID-19 were as bad as all that, then it would stand to reason homeless people would make up a large percentage of the mortality rate. Yet, we aren't seeing that. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. Louisville is actually helping to build a tent city on public ground they acquired. I suppose that's to help get the turds off the sidewalk on E. Jefferson, just behind Wayside, and out of the public eye...but I digress. These folks just aren't dying in huge numbers due to COVID-19, yet you would expect the opposite. Since the majority of homeless people are immunocompromised in some fashion and have a higher number of comorbidities than the average person...yet they aren't dying in large numbers...what reasonable conclusions can be drawn?

Another good example, although anecdotal, can be found in my area. I have the pleasure of dealing with a kidney stone at the moment. When it first hit, nearly two weeks ago, I went to the local Fast Pace clinic. It was packed full, presumably of folks with flu and cold symptoms, as the 'rona is on the increase around here. So, we went to the ER in Paris. They were empty when I got there. The nurse did say they'd been busy as of late, dealing with COVID-19 patients, but made no mention of any serious incidents. Given that the Ear was filling up when I left, but no ambulances coming in code, I can only presume that most COVID-19 patients are ambulatory and not in need of serious emergency treatment. Truth be told, the vast majority are likely more scared of being sick than anything, due to media hype.

So, what I can infer from the local situation is that there is definitely an increase of COVID-19 in the region, but mortality events are not occurring. If they were, the local governments would be closing down schools and businesses again, along with mask mandates. Henry County and Paris mayors were among the last to ease those restrictions last time around and yet now, everything is open and running normal. No screaming from the news media about deaths, no daily death counter like last time, etc.

Draw your own conclusions. Mine are that the disease is real, that some people die from it but not a lot, and that the severity of the symptoms is highly variable among patients. Some don't know they even have the disease until being tested and others feel like a train hit them. Almost like another virus that hangs around during the winter...
 

KY_Fried

12 pointer
Nov 13, 2003
2,321
Foster, KY, USA.
It's coming everywhere, mark my words. I'm the only one in my family who hasn't been vaxed, but I think I'm going to cave soon. The only reason is work. If I come down with it and spread it to anyone else, being that I'm unvaxed, it'll cause a $hitstorm of drama that I'm not willing to deal with.
 

carnivore

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Nov 17, 2007
10,170
Ky
This is an interesting article,about law suits and employers forcing the vaccine.It seems you can’t sue for side affects ,and an employer,can force you to take the vaccine ,if I read it right .Took a pic of the title, didn’t know how to post it.
When you cant sue after you’ve been wronged people will get thier own brand of justice.
 

120+

12 pointer
Aug 22, 2006
16,777
You can't get there from here.
As I have said over and over, if you want a mask and vaccine, have at it. My wife and I have discussed the subject and decided that taking an experimental drug with ZERO long term data on effects is not necessary to keep us healthy at this time. If bodies start stacking for real, then we will reevaluate. Until then, do as you wish - it's America. Just don't force me and mine to follow you by means of social or government pressure.

And I have already told you, I don't give a rat's ass if you get vaccinated. I'm saying the arguments are weak and border paranoia.
 

aaronc

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Jul 21, 2009
3,044
Leitchfield
Do we know that really happened? I also saw the video and know that the group who released it had an agenda to make the Communist Chinese Party look bad. Based on the decided lack of bodies stacking up around the U.S., I have my doubts about the legitimacy of that video.

Use some critical thinking skills. My example is always the homeless population. They are grouped in close quarters, don't wear masks for the most part - and their habits take away any benefit a mask would have, and are in relative poor health compared to the general population. Lots of substance abuse issues, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, etc. I know this firsthand, as I dealt with the homeless population for two decades.

So, if COVID-19 were as bad as all that, then it would stand to reason homeless people would make up a large percentage of the mortality rate. Yet, we aren't seeing that. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. Louisville is actually helping to build a tent city on public ground they acquired. I suppose that's to help get the turds off the sidewalk on E. Jefferson, just behind Wayside, and out of the public eye...but I digress. These folks just aren't dying in huge numbers due to COVID-19, yet you would expect the opposite. Since the majority of homeless people are immunocompromised in some fashion and have a higher number of comorbidities than the average person...yet they aren't dying in large numbers...what reasonable conclusions can be drawn?

Another good example, although anecdotal, can be found in my area. I have the pleasure of dealing with a kidney stone at the moment. When it first hit, nearly two weeks ago, I went to the local Fast Pace clinic. It was packed full, presumably of folks with flu and cold symptoms, as the 'rona is on the increase around here. So, we went to the ER in Paris. They were empty when I got there. The nurse did say they'd been busy as of late, dealing with COVID-19 patients, but made no mention of any serious incidents. Given that the Ear was filling up when I left, but no ambulances coming in code, I can only presume that most COVID-19 patients are ambulatory and not in need of serious emergency treatment. Truth be told, the vast majority are likely more scared of being sick than anything, due to media hype.

So, what I can infer from the local situation is that there is definitely an increase of COVID-19 in the region, but mortality events are not occurring. If they were, the local governments would be closing down schools and businesses again, along with mask mandates. Henry County and Paris mayors were among the last to ease those restrictions last time around and yet now, everything is open and running normal. No screaming from the news media about deaths, no daily death counter like last time, etc.

Draw your own conclusions. Mine are that the disease is real, that some people die from it but not a lot, and that the severity of the symptoms is highly variable among patients. Some don't know they even have the disease until being tested and others feel like a train hit them. Almost like another virus that hangs around during the winter...


Your homeless argument really holds no merit,..their labs indicate nothing of them being immunocompromised anymore than anyone else. Covid patients don't arrive at the ER like heart attacks coding,...they arrive as resp failure or shortness of breath etc,..some are ambulatory,..some are not. Then they will linger for weeks/a month more than likely and get over it or die with someone beating on their chest. Our critical care is now overflowed into other units. You are however correct about the variability in symptoms among patients.
 

HuntressOfLight

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Nov 23, 2019
10,488
Guarding my lovely bluebirds
Your homeless argument really holds no merit,..their labs indicate nothing of them being immunocompromised anymore than anyone else...


Oh for Pete's sake, give it up; common logic should dictate that the man is correct, but here:

"...Homeless people often have many complex health issues, including tri-morbidity (the co-existence of physical and mental health and addiction problems). Homeless people also face a number of barriers accessing health care as well as public health information. Due to their compromised immune systems, poor nutrition and hygiene..."


https://epha.org/the-impact-of-the-covid-19-crisis-on-homelessness/
 
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