I did agree that our numbers are down in the last 5 years. Luckily, around my places I feel like they have been better the last 2 years and I saw more Jake’s this year than I can ever remember. I just don’t feel like our population is at a point any drastic measures should be taken. I have never been in favor of killing hens ever for any reason at all. And I don’t think we have a “problem”. We were told our numbers would not stay where we were at 10 years ago.Actually, 23 years ago was pretty much the early days of turkey hunting. We'd had a season statewide for under 10 years at that time. Other than Butler county and LBL, there was no turkey hunting in the state until '89 or so. I'm very happy for you in having good places to hunt. I too have pretty good places to hunt. But to say our numbers aren't down dramatically in the last 5 years is disingenuous at best. I don't think anybody is crying about low numbers, they're just speaking up and saying we have a problem. Just like millions of other hunters across the country.