John Kerry Signs Global Pact to Crush US Farmers

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  • Researchers at UC Davis warn there are major environmental downsides to lab-grown meat. According to their “cradle-to-gate life cycle” analysis, the lab-grown meat industry produces up to 25 times more CO2 than traditional animal husbandry, which nullifies the core ideological foundation upon which the industry is built”

What They Don’t Want You to Know About Lab-Grown Meat​

 

Beagle Huntsman

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And the plan in Ireland to reduce agricultural emissions by removing cattle was just a “modeling document” - a proposal - not final policy. They are examining ways to reach their 2030 climate goals. Hats off to Ireland for sticking to those most important goals!
 

HillBillyFiveO

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Here’s the generally accepted future of polar bears….

https://earth.org/polar-bears-to-become-extinct-by-2100/

They are just one of many many species we will lose in less than 100 years. Those who refuse to accept the fact that our climate is changing and fight against efforts to mitigate the effects only make it worse than it could be.
Counter Argument for polar Bear Numbers

I love the continued use of the word “model” and how they’ve failed. This is a decent article debunking polar bear demise yet supporting SOME green measures. Falls on deaf ears, I’m sure.

Floyd T
 

Beagle Huntsman

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And China's goal is to build more coal fired plants. Nullifies all goals anybody else has. Find your railroad car and enter with glee comrade.
So the rest of the world should give up? Hardly!

China has pledged to reach peak emissions by 2030 and carbon neutrality by 2060. It will be costly for them, so we’ll see. By doing our part, it’s easier to pressure them to do the same.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/p...ce-needs-shifts-in-resources-and-technologies
 

Gforcetrivers

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Perhaps you’d like to tell us when you think we have experienced climate change like what we are seeing now?
The Younger Dryas event (12,900 to 11,600 years ago) is the most intensely studied and best-understood example of abrupt climate change. The event took place during the last deglaciation, a period of global warming when the Earth system was in transition from a glacial mode to an interglacial one. The Younger Dryas was marked by a sharp drop in temperatures in the North Atlantic region; cooling in northern Europe and eastern North America is estimated at 4 to 8 °C (7.2 to 14.4 °F). Terrestrial and marine records indicate that the Younger Dryas had detectable effects of lesser magnitude over most other regions of Earth. The termination of the Younger Dryas was very rapid, occurring within a decade. The Younger Dryas resulted from an abrupt shutdown of the thermohaline circulation in the North Atlantic, which is critical for the transport of heat from equatorial regions northward (today the Gulf Stream is a part of that circulation). The cause of the shutdown of the thermohaline circulation is under study; an influx of large volumes of freshwater from melting glaciers into the North Atlantic has been implicated, although o
 

Beagle Huntsman

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Jan 20, 2023
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Counter Argument for polar Bear Numbers

I love the continued use of the word “model” and how they’ve failed. This is a decent article debunking polar bear demise yet supporting SOME green measures. Falls on deaf ears, I’m sure.

Floyd T
Essentially says if we stop hunting polar bears maybe climate change won’t wipe them out as fast. Possibly, but habitat is more important than hunting.

Without the sea ice for hunting seals, polar bears are increasingly forced to hunt other food sources inland. It’s harder for them to maintain condition without the rich seal diet.
 

Gforcetrivers

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Perhaps you’d like to tell us when you think we have experienced climate change like what we are seeing now?
Paleoclimatologists are devoting increasing attention to identifying and studying other abrupt changes. The Dansgaard-Oeschger cyclesof the last glacial period are now recognized as representing alternation between two climate states, with rapid transitions from one state to the other. A 200-year-long cooling event in the Northern Hemisphere approximately 8,200 years ago resulted from the rapid draining of glacial Lake Agassiz into the North Atlantic via the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence drainage. This event, characterized as a miniature version of the Younger Dryas, had ecological impacts in Europe and North America that included a rapid decline of hemlock populations in New Englandforests. In addition, evidence of another such transition, marked by a rapid drop in the water levels of lakes and bogs in eastern North America, occurred 5,200 years ago. It is recorded in ice cores from glaciers at high altitudes in tropical regions as well as tree-ring, lake-level, and peatland samples from temperate regions.
 

Beagle Huntsman

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The Younger Dryas event (12,900 to 11,600 years ago) is the most intensely studied and best-understood example of abrupt climate change. The event took place during the last deglaciation, a period of global warming when the Earth system was in transition from a glacial mode to an interglacial one. The Younger Dryas was marked by a sharp drop in temperatures in the North Atlantic region; cooling in northern Europe and eastern North America is estimated at 4 to 8 °C (7.2 to 14.4 °F). Terrestrial and marine records indicate that the Younger Dryas had detectable effects of lesser magnitude over most other regions of Earth. The termination of the Younger Dryas was very rapid, occurring within a decade. The Younger Dryas resulted from an abrupt shutdown of the thermohaline circulation in the North Atlantic, which is critical for the transport of heat from equatorial regions northward (today the Gulf Stream is a part of that circulation). The cause of the shutdown of the thermohaline circulation is under study; an influx of large volumes of freshwater from melting glaciers into the North Atlantic has been implicated, although o
Gforce, the point I made was that it is difficult to predict with exact certainty how things will occur as we experience climate change. None of us were here during the event you listed, and past climate changes occurred for different reasons. The climate change of today is caused by humans - for the first time. And that makes it different - something we have not seen.
 

Gforcetrivers

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Gforce, the point I made was that it is difficult to predict with exact certainty how things will occur as we experience climate change. None of us were here during the event you listed, and past climate changes occurred for different reasons. The climate change of today is caused by humans - for the first time. And that makes it different - something we have not seen.

Why do you torture yourself like this? We do not control the climate of the earth!!!!
 


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