How join th fight for center fired at night?

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  1. bgkyarcher

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    I missed something? You calling someone a poacher, or saying you can't fix stupid(poacher)?
     
  2. kyfuzzyface

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    Must be some tuff squirrels up there in Indiana
     
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  3. kyfuzzyface

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    I see both sides, I also have cattle. I would know witch way was safe to shoot at night on my farms but maybe not on others and what about that baby calf that mama has hide out down in the hollow, I have never tried the night hunting, It hard enough to kill them in the daytime
     
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  4. davers

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    I don't live in Indiana, having moved to Central Kentucky in 2008. Up in Indiana we could use ANY Rimfire or any Centerfire ammunition for Hunting Squirrels. Up in my old Hunting Grounds, I mostly used either my .22 Hornet loaded down or my .25-20 Winchester Model 43 bolt action rifles. You'd be surprised to see how these two loads are less destructive on Squirrels when compared to a .22 LR Hollow Point or .22 Magnum. Even those various .17 Rimfires. My favorite "Squirrel" load in my .22 Hornet was 7.0 Grains/SR-4759/50 Grain "High Velocity" bullet, loaded up in Remington cases. Velocity is 1,500 FPS. Same load for my .25-20 except using an 86 grain Remington Bullet or cast lead bullet weighing 75 grains and using 4.0 grains of Unique. Just wonder why it not legal to use centerfires on Squirrels here in Kentucky, always been a mystery to me.
     
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  5. coyote1758

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    I think you had mentioned something about poachers and night hunting and I meant if a person is stupid enough to poach I can not fix that. I did not mean to insult anyone.
     
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  6. bondhu

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    WOW! Guess Im with kyfuzzyface must be some tuff squirrels up there. Back when I was young brought home 2 reds with a crossman .177 pellet gun but I did put 20 pumps in it so probably did shoot like a .22 Hornet. Ha Ha
     
  7. davers

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    Harvested my very first Fox Squirrel with a .20 caliber Sheridan "Blue Streak" back when I was 12 years old, back in Indiana. Later, when I bought several brands of .22 Hornet rifles, I developed a light load to take Squirrels without blowing them to pieces. Same with my .25-20 Winchester Model 43, only factory 86 grain loads were non-destructive on Squirrels, but I also had a great cast gas checked 75 grain bullet load using Unique powder. (4.0 grains). It's just a mystery to me why small, reduced loaded centerfire cartridges, like the two mentioned; are not legal for Squirrel Hunting, when they ARE legal for Deer??:confused:
     
  8. bgkyarcher

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    Probably due to firing in the air/distance they can travel
     
  9. davers

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    I understand your point, but I never had that problem Hunting Squirrels in Indiana, where it's not illegal to use centerfires. There were far more people around in the areas I hunted than where I now live in Central Kentucky. Besides a .22 LR, .22 Magnum, and even the .17 Rimfires travel just as far as a light loaded .22 Hornet @ 1,500 FPS.
     
  10. bgkyarcher

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    They determine by caliber, not load. Just my guess on why it's not legal.
     
  11. Carl

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    About the dumbest law we have is not being allowed to use a light year around. How are you supposed to safely see your target in moonlight?:(
     
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  12. davers

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    But, I used a .22 (.224") bullet weighing 40-50 grains, in my .22 Hornet. Your .22 LR or .22 Magnum is a .223" - .224" diameter bullet.
     
  13. Carl

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    My favorite 22 is a Savage 93 VF like this one.
     

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  14. bgkyarcher

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    But it's centerfire, correct?
     
  15. davers

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    YEP! My question, yet to be answered, why can't we use these small centerfire cartridges for Squirrels?? Sound like Kentucky "Gun Control" to me. While living in Indiana, we could use these small centerfires for Squirrels and it worked out fine, especially you reloaded light loads. Ricochets, are non-existent, as common with .22 Rimfires cartridges. Can't tell you how many Ricochets I heard while Squirrel hunting with other Hunters in the woods using semi-auto .22 LR firearms. A valid reason is what I am searching for, however, in the mean time, I'll just use my .22 LR CZ-452 or Ruger .22 LR. If I can't use my .22 Hornet rifle or even my .25-20 Winchester M-43 for hunting Squirrels; then they are useless here in Kentucky. I use my .222 CZ "LUX" rifle, my .270 Ruger M-77, and my Ruger M-77 Compact Magnum in .308 for Coyotes. My .22 Hornet or .25-20 rifles are a bit light for Coyotes at average range unless you are on top of them & Groundhogs are non-existent in my area. My average shot at a Coyote is around 150 yards out to 300 yards, and I don't want to wound anything with a small centerfire at those distant.
     

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