Have y'all heard about some group trying to get .223's banned from deer hunting?

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by Lady Hunter, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. Lady Hunter

    Lady Hunter 12 pointer

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    A guy was at our local sportsmans club last month & had a looooooong song & dance about how they weren't sufficient to take a deer & were leaving wounded deer lying all over the state... Real PETA-fodder type of stuff. Apparently there's some type of legislation afoot???
     
  2. Dark Cloud

    Dark Cloud 12 pointer

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    I don't have a problem with it,allows a lot of people to hunt with what they have.If they're goning to change the law ,it should include more than the 223.Use to be 243 cal. was the smallest that could be used.Probably some group wanting to target certain rifles for thier own agenda.Any bullet placed right ,will make a lethal kill I think.
     
  3. WaterDog88

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    It's a fine deer round as long as the person using it knows it's limitations and uses the right bullet. My guess is the "guy" your referring to hasn't used one.
     
  4. RackedUP

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    The US military seems to think it kills well...
     
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  5. Lady Hunter

    Lady Hunter 12 pointer

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    He was talking about taking his daughter out this past year & her shooting a deer at 100 yards and it taking multiple shots to go down. And, more or less in his words, "none of the bullets exited so you know if someone shoots one, they'll never find it."
    For the record, I disagree. It's all about shot placement & knowing the limitations of the round & rifle you're shooting. Sounded like he's going around the state trying to get support for his "cause."
     
  6. bird whisperer

    bird whisperer 12 pointer

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    It all boils down to there are some big changes comming in the not to distant future and the League is hopping to steer the Commission in a less aggressive direction. So far they have not gotten alot of clubs to support it and it will have to be decided at the annual meeting if the League will move it forward.
     
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  7. WaterDog88

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    I killed a buck with my 30-06 this year and the round didn't exit and the deer still covered about 40 yards with a quartering too boiler room shot. I guess my -06 isn't much of a deer gun...?

    And I agree it's about shot placement and knowing your gun. Depending on the load and barrel length 100 yards may be pushing the limits of the round. People who use this round need to do some research and actually consider how the round will perform in their gun. A rifle shooting the same 60 grain bullet out of a 24 inch pipe will do slightly better at 100 yard than the same bullet out of say my 16 barrel on my AR.

    All I'll say is I've helped track far more wounded/poorly shot deer that were shot with 27 and 30 calibers than I have with the smaller bores.

    .223/5x56 is perfectly capable. Sorry the guy had a bad experience, but was it the bullet/guns fault? I'd say probably not.
     
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  9. davers

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    It's well known that a .223 Remington loaded with the right weight of bullet of 64 grains will cleanly harvest a normal sized Deer. However most Hunters don't practice enough to have the ability of placing a shot in the "kill zone", plus take risky shots or shoot too far out for the .223 to take down a Deer. Most States require a minimum caliber of .243" (.243 Winchester or 6 m/m Remington) to be legal for Deer. But it's known that any caliber requires a proper hit on a Deer to harvest it cleanly.
     
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  10. muddhunter

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    It's not my first choice on a deer gun but if someone else uses it I am just fine with it. I have several deer guns bigger than a .223 to utilize and tend toward them. If the .223 is what you have,practice with and are comfortable shooting I say fire away. Just need to match the bullet weight and type to the game at hand.
     
  11. Iceman35

    Iceman35 12 pointer

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    How does this jack wagon know the"wounded deer all over the state", were from .223?
     
  12. Dark Cloud

    Dark Cloud 12 pointer

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    He might of wounded a few ,like some thank ,just aim at the center you'll get it.
     
  13. Dan99

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    The doe I killed in November didn't seem to mind that I used .223.
     
  14. Dan99

    Dan99 6 pointer

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    I'm sure he heard it from three different Marine Recon Snipers down at the gun store.
     
  15. Lady Hunter

    Lady Hunter 12 pointer

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    He didn't seem too interested in answering questions like that... or about where the shots actually hit on his daughter's deer. My impression was another case of "blame the gun/ammo instead of the shooter"....
     
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