Ok, i've hunted for several yrs. But never could determine by a rub what size buck made this..So bring on your opinions ..I found 3 different ones about 5 yds apart .All were cedar trees which have 2.5 inch trunks at the base and about 2.5 in through were the rub was made..The rubs were about 2 ft. tall and the last limb broken off was about 3/8 inch thick and broken off about 2 inches from the trunk. Now i seen limbs broken off as high as 4 ft. and several limbs as described above were broken off the largest cedar.. They appear to have been made within the last 3 or 4 days..So whats your opinions on size? I'm headed back there sat. morning for the muzzelloader opener..Should i try a little rattling and use the grunt tube as well?