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I will be one of his biggest supporters.
Is that because of his great job creating record? Or is it because he is against labor in every way possible?
I will be one of his biggest supporters.
The fat corporate executives have done a wonderful job helping the working class.
They both brought their respective states back to reality and balanced the budget. And I'll never understand why a government workers salary averages way more than their counter part in the private sector. It makes absolutely no sense.Take a look at Indiana. Pence has lowered taxes, but done everything he can to cut public and private unions off at the knees and the average income has gone down.
You are right. I was thinking of federal workers compared to the private citizens. I understand the added scrutiny, but the difference in wage is almost double. Off the top of head, I remember a stat that said the average private worker earns $45,000 annually. The average federal worker earns over $75,000. I just don't see how that is justified.It depends..Many if not "most" state government workers salary are less than those in the private sector..Then many federal govt workers salaries are higher because their qualifications are higher and many in the private sector cant make the grade or even pass the background and financial checks that they require..Also when you work for the federal govt you take on the extra weight of the govt poking in your private affairs and monitoring what you do as to not make them look bad..When you work in the mines they don't care that you got a drunk and disorderly as long as your at work the next day..When you work for the govt and get that charge you may not have a job the next day..Its a trade off, more money but much tighter restrictions and policies.
They both brought their respective states back to reality and balanced the budget. And I'll never understand why a government workers salary averages way more than their counter part in the private sector. It makes absolutely no sense.
and anti union legislation produced a decline in middle class income..
There is an obvious effort by the big money interests to kill unions or anybody else who helps further the cause of the working class. They couldn't care less if the middle class declines as long as their bank accounts keep growing. My opinion is that if the working class people all make more money, the entire country benefits.
I would say that the loss of jobs is due to the fact that unions priced their workers out of the market. Wages kept increasing and companies quickly realized that they could produce goods abroad much cheaper than they could in the us. Same with corporate taxes. Companies make more money overseas. As manufacturing jobs have vacated, our economy has switched from a manufacturing basis to a service based consumer economy. I agree that the end result is bad because we don't make anything, but I hardly think anti-union policies have anything to do with jobs being outsourced.I would love to see someone that could prove a correlation here (Quote from Dubya Gee)
I don't know if this is proof of a correlation, but I am old enough to have watched the growth and decline of the middle class. When the union workers fought for better pay and benefits, non union workers went up with them. At the same time, the United States had the strongest manufacturing element of any country in the world. If you look at the decline of the middle class, it runs simultaneous with anti union legislation. If the big corporation owners had voluntarily paid the salaries and benefits needed and deserved by their workers, the need for the union movement would never have happened. The outsourcing and such which rode on the wings of questionable tax evading techniques by the big corporations has resulted in the loss of millions of jobs, and at the same time has cost our government operating capital. This TPP crap they are pushing for fast track authorization on is just another example of something that needs to be thoroughly debated, not fast tracked.
There is an obvious effort by the big money interests to kill unions or anybody else who helps further the cause of the working class. They couldn't care less if the middle class declines as long as their bank accounts keep growing. My opinion is that if the working class people all make more money, the entire country benefits.
I would say that the loss of jobs is due to the fact that unions priced their workers out of the market. Wages kept increasing and companies quickly realized that they could produce goods abroad much cheaper than they could in the us. Same with corporate taxes. Companies make more money overseas. As manufacturing jobs have vacated, our economy has switched from a manufacturing basis to a service based consumer economy. I agree that the end result is bad because we don't make anything, but I hardly think anti-union policies have anything to do with jobs being outsourced.
I think the goal of energy independence ASAP and the means to get there would greatly help the working class. We need to stabilize the economy and focus on free market principles. If the GDP grows the middle class grows. The hard part is, like you said, we need the middle class to grow to increase the GDP.