Elk load/rifle?

Discussion in 'Modern Firearms' started by GrouseAssasin, May 19, 2015.

  1. jb917

    jb917 8 pointer

    Oct 21, 2009
    Ewing, KY
    I would take the 280 with accubond or partions in 150gr or heavier. But if recoil is an issue don't let the 7mm-08 fool you. My son killed his ky bull with a 140 gr accubond out of his 7mm-08 at 167 yards.

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  2. GrouseAssasin

    GrouseAssasin 12 pointer

    Aug 1, 2009
    Jackson, ky
    That was one reason I was considering the 7mm-08. My FIL is 73 and can't take a pounding anymore. The 280 had a pretty good kick, thats why it's been a safe queen the last couple years but it's still his baby and his first choice for an elk gun. He can sand bag it off a bench for practice and when the big moment comes I'm sure he won't even feel it.

    Can't belive the Mosin has got no love.....Eskimos been whackin moose with them since WWII.
  3. KYT

    KYT 8 pointer

    May 3, 2008
    Eastern Ky.
    In the 1950's the 30-30 was the most popular elk rifle. It accounted for a pile of them. The elk haven't changed.
    The 280 with 150 BT will kill any elk that walks the earth. We split hairs fussing over relatively minor differences in ballistics and bullets. Any of those through both lungs (including a 30-30 in range) and its elk down. Make a bad shot and no caliber will put one down where you can find it, not even a 50 cal Barrett.
  4. EdLongshanks

    EdLongshanks 12 pointer

    Nov 16, 2013
    Northern Kentucky

    I'm definitely NOT an expert, but I completely agree with this. Interesting thread though.
  5. GrouseAssasin

    GrouseAssasin 12 pointer

    Aug 1, 2009
    Jackson, ky
    If I knew we could get one at 50-75 yards he could pack his 30-30. He's DEADLY with it. I didn't even bring up the 30-30 as an option for fear of ridicule. His tag is for the second week, so the elk may be spooky, we may have to have that .280's reach.
  6. Teach Deer

    Teach Deer 8 pointer

    Aug 4, 2013
    The 7mm bullets are absolutely deadly on elk...the .280 or the 7mm08 would be fine...best ammo choice would be a 160 grain load featuring a Nosler Partition or Accubond or the Hornady GMX or Barnes X bullets...I am very partial to the Partition load...

    Due to the ruggedness of the mountains, I would seriously consider the 7mm08 as my first choice...

    Best of luck !!!
  7. JDMiller

    JDMiller 12 pointer

    Jun 12, 2005
    " Between the Rivers "
    I don't disagree either.... from the standpoint it's always about shot placement regardless of the weapon. I'd even imagine that a well placed 22lr has caused the demise of a few elk. Also been some discussion in the past concerning the 243 which is not a legal caliber to hunt elk with in Ky. Most will agree that in the right conditions there's a whole slew of calibers & bullet combination that would be effective.

    But also on that note ... I'd have to ask why would you not pack a gun/ caliber and bullet that leaves no question concerning performance if you do your part??

    Guess my thought process has to do more with the opportunity at hand. A Ky bull rifle tag is about as coveted as your going to get in this state. Chances are your only going to get one in your lifetime and the last thing I would want is to be packing a rifle / bullet combination that I might question my confidence in.

    Which I'm not saying anyone needs a 300 win mag to hunt elk. But I think taking a legal elk caliber you have access to , choosing the right bullet and being proficient for various situations is at minimum what should be expected.

    I also believe the worse thing anyone can do is go in with a white-tail mindset that what you use on deer will work the same on elk. Just not the case ... much heavier bone structure and even shot placement is not exactly the same.

    But to each his own.

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  8. KYBOB

    KYBOB 8 pointer

    Dec 26, 2009
    Barren Co.
    I agree JD.

  9. DH13

    DH13 12 pointer

    Jan 13, 2012
    Shelby county
    True that JDMiller. Shot placement is where it is at Bow or Gun.
    We dropped Elk in Wyoming just as DEAD with a 243 as others did with 270 or 30.06 did.
    I don't care what caliber you use if it is a BAD SHOT you wont get your game.
  10. inchr48

    inchr48 10 pointer

    May 14, 2013
    NW Indiana
    I'm sure a well placed cup/core or solid copper bullet into the boiler-room, and the Elk won't know the caliber.

    Congrats to your Dad, and best of luck.

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  11. kymailman98

    kymailman98 10 pointer

    Dec 20, 2009
    Christian County
    If you don't reload, then go to someplace like Cabela's or Gander Mountain and you should find a good choice in ammo for the 280. In full throttle loads, like you need to use for elk, there won't be much difference in recoil between a 280 and a 7-08. I have a 7-08 in a lightweight Remington 700 Mountain Rifle, and I reload for it and my loads are on the stiff side, and that darn things kicks like a mule. Like JD said, a chance for a Kentucky bull elk is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and the last thing I would cut corners on would be my choice in rifles.
  12. GrouseAssasin

    GrouseAssasin 12 pointer

    Aug 1, 2009
    Jackson, ky
    It's pretty much settled on the .280 with Accu-bonds. Probably use the 160s because it's something I can pick up on my travels. Just kick back and wait for January!!
    Last edited: May 27, 2015
  13. racsr

    racsr 10 pointer

    May 7, 2009
    morgan county ky
    Good choice! My 09 bull fell to 7mm 160 accubond.
  14. headoftheholler

    headoftheholler 12 pointer

    Oct 16, 2007
    Getshot, KY
    Since my favorite hunting rifle in 6.5x55 falls just under the departments minimum, I decided last year to start building from scratch a 30-06 with bigger optics than I usually do.
    The 156g Norma 6.5x55 (on the left) has befallen hundreds of thousands of moose in Scandinavia, but not big enough for Ky.
  15. GrouseAssasin

    GrouseAssasin 12 pointer

    Aug 1, 2009
    Jackson, ky
    Jeez what a bullet. That thing could be making a exit hole while it was still coming in the other side. If I'm ever drawn the Mosin is going with me no question. Big bullet, fairly accurate at distance, it's killed deer, coyotes, "other" critters, and hell maybe even a Natzi or two. No doubt it would drop an elk.

    Befallen....is that just like regular killed or really really killed?

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