My point was I’ve been in the work force since 14 and have been taxed on every paycheck I’ve received.
Its def not the take home, and why is that ?
I do get what you’re saying. No one bitches about taxes more than me. I have for the past 2 years had $200 taken out on top of withholding and my wife takes out an additional 100 and we still paid in a substantial amount. We pay in more than a lot of people make salary wise. But it doesn’t change the fact that even if you nuke social security something needs to exist to help those that are less fortunate by no fault of their own in the ways I described earlier. Not to mention the fact that I do invest in my retirement fund but all it takes is one event and your money is gone. That scares the ever loving shit out of me. People act like it can’t happen either
Just so we’re clear and I’m not not mistaken on my understanding of “socialist” vs “socialism”. You think all socialist programs are bad. So that means you want to end all of the following.
People get mad about their money. And people believe all things are equal and everyone has the exact same circumstances as everyone and everyone should be able to pull theirselves up and come out of any situation when in reality it’s not possible no matter how much you want to believe it. Yes, jobs are plentiful but one medical event or car crash decimated your ability to work and catch up because no place wants you full time for benefits. Yes McDonald’s is hiring everyday but they want you to work 25-36 hours a week. Working closely with employment specialist they will tell you just truthfully how hard it is right now. Truth is everyone on here pretty much agrees with the Bible and we’re supposed to help our neighbors that are struggling. That doesn’t mean tell them to do better. People are going through shit you can’t imagine. This all goes out the window when you’re talking about people who refuse to work
That’s exactly the point I was making.
Part of the problem with the world today is we assume absolutely everyone experiences life the same way when it’s entirely untrue. I’m sure OP is a wonderful person and is the symbol of overcoming adversity. But to think his life and ability and experiences should transfer laterally is crazy. But to go through life today is difficult. Every old timer says we have it beyond easy and then in the same breath says they wish we’d go back to the old days. You could live on nothing. Literally nothing as long as you had family land which was the case for most. You raised a garden that you mostly propagated yourself or with seeds you got on credit and ate soup beans every single day. Average rent today in my area is about $700 without utilities. A vehicle is at least 1500 to 2000 to get something that runs. A family of 4 spends probably 2-300 a week on groceries. If you’re making 15$ an hour and are a single income family you are saving literally every single penny to have a home and some modicum of food in the home. You cannot tell me it’s easier today.
History proves, over your lifetime, stocks pay off. You only lose it when you do panic, and pull it after a drop.
I am 61 and have never met anyone who worked all their life and couldn't take care of themselves financially.
You’ve never met someone who says they need help. I literally see it every single week at least one or two people.
I agree for the most part. But there are always exceptions. I know a man right now that can’t. At 78 years old he has had to go back to work because his entire savings got wiped out by medical bills. Got hit by another vehicle that run him off the road and left the scene. Vehicle totaled and only he only had liability. Only money he now has is SSI. Can’t afford another vehicle, etc…. Life happens and sometimes people need help pulling up their own boot straps.
