Back to Eden Gardening

Gioacchino

6 pointer
Jan 20, 2016
374
Kentucky
All good info, thanks everyone. I'll have to do more research on JMS.

Nock, check out this video if you're interested in learning more about Back to Eden.

There are several other videos you can watch, too. But this is one of the ones that really got me interested. I think it's an interesting concept of building soil quality. Like I said, this year has been pretty disappointing. But I plan on trying it again next year to see if I have improvements.
 
If anyone is interested in a quick fix for conditioning poor soil, Happy Frog Soil Conditioner is the ticket and this price is best I have found anywhere. It’s ship to store to your local True Value. I also use it for container growing mixed 50-50 with Promix with mycos and top dress later with the Plant-tone, tomato-tone line of organic fertilizers and do well. It’s my simplified approach to organic gardening.

https://www.idealtruevalue.com/stor...MI-dmDiarR2wIVjsBkCh3AMwi9EAQYASABEgKepPD_BwE
 

rlb165

12 pointer
Dec 10, 2001
2,126
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Am I the only one how had to google “ back to Eden gardening “?

Lol!! I was surprised when I saw the thread title!!
I'm always looking to see how other people grow stuff, to see if I can use their techniques in our food plots. I heard or read somewhere that soil rich in microbes will have a slightly longer growing season than soil without a good microbe population, because the microbe activity warms the soil up a little. BOOM!! I was hooked.
 

inchr48

10 pointer
May 14, 2013
1,261
NW Indiana
We save our kitchen vegetable scraps, egg shells, etc in a mini compost bin. I have a large "tumbler" unit that I add grass clippings, wood chips, the kitchen compost, and the neighbor's horse manure to.
It cooks for a week or 10 days, tumble it every day when I remember. I use it for top dressing, and works fairly well. I also use store bought fertilizer weekly though.
 

rlb165

12 pointer
Dec 10, 2001
2,126
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All good info, thanks everyone. I'll have to do more research on JMS.

That's just the opening I've been waiting for!!:D

These 5-gallon buckets have something called JLF in them. JADAM Liquid Fertilizer. It's weeds and grass and deer poop I've picked up, along with water and microbes. The buckets have had the stuff in them since November. The were moved to where they are in the picture back in April. Look at the difference in the weeds right around the buckets. The only thing I can figure is that the buckets overflowed when it rained. This has me thinking that there might be something to this stuff. By the way, I scooped some out before I took the picture. I've put it out on a couple of clover plots, but it's too soon to see if it's gonna make any difference.
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Saturday, I bought a bag of beans at the grocery store to put out. This bag was called 15 variety bean soup mix I think. Usually, I just put out regular pintos. Anyway, I put some in water and some in JMS. This picture was taken after the beans had been soaking overnight.
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The top coffee can is water. Bottom is JMS. Supposedly, those bubbles mean that the microbes are doing whatever it is that microbes are supposed to do.

Finally, I put the beans out Sunday afternoon. This was a spot I covered in sheets of cardboard last year.
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Left side is water only, middle is JMS, right side is beans that didn't soak in anything. I weedeated close to this spot, then covered up the beans wth the clippings. If I see any difference in how these do I'll post it here.

All this to say, it seems like Back To Eden Gardening, combined with JADAM techniques, could make for an interesting garden or food plot.
 
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Gioacchino

6 pointer
Jan 20, 2016
374
Kentucky
That's just the opening I've been waiting for!!:D

These 5-gallon buckets have something called JLF in them. JADAM Liquid Fertilizer. It's weeds and grass and deer poop I've picked up, along with water and microbes. The buckets have had the stuff in them since November. The were moved to where they are in the picture back in April. Look at the difference in the weeds right around the buckets. The only thing I can figure is that the buckets overflowed when it rained. This has me thinking that there might be something to this stuff. By the way, I scooped some out before I took the picture. I've put it out on a couple of clover plots, but it's too soon to see if it's gonna make any difference.
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Saturday, I bought a bag of beans at the grocery store to put out. This bag was called 15 variety bean soup mix I think. Usually, I just put out regular pintos. Anyway, I put some in water and some in JMS. This picture was taken after the beans had been soaking overnight.
View attachment 62078
The top coffee can is water. Bottom is JMS. Supposedly, those bubbles mean that the microbes are doing whatever it is that microbes are supposed to do.

Finally, I put the beans out Sunday afternoon. This was a spot I covered in sheets of cardboard last year. View attachment 62079
Left side is water only, middle is JMS, right side is beans that didn't soak in anything. I weedeated close to this spot, then covered up the beans wth the clippings. If I see any difference in how these do I'll post it here.

All this to say, it seems like Back To Eden Gardening, combined with JADAM techniques, could make for an interesting garden or food plot.

I'll be interested to see what comes of those beans.

I've been reading and thinking more about my BtE plot. I think my problem this year is that I may not have properly fertilized.
 

rlb165

12 pointer
Dec 10, 2001
2,126
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I'll be interested to see what comes of those beans.

I've been reading and thinking more about my BtE plot. I think my problem this year is that I may not have properly fertilized.

I'll post whatever happens.

You may not be as interested in this stuff as I am, but there are 2 farmers, Gabe Brown and David Brandt that have some good soil info on YouTube. There's also a soil agronomist named Ray Archuleta that has some really good stuff. Their common theme is reducing synthetic inputs, and rebuilding cropland with cover crops.
Cover crops=Food plots...or a garden.
 

Gioacchino

6 pointer
Jan 20, 2016
374
Kentucky
I'll post whatever happens.

You may not be as interested in this stuff as I am, but there are 2 farmers, Gabe Brown and David Brandt that have some good soil info on YouTube. There's also a soil agronomist named Ray Archuleta that has some really good stuff. Their common theme is reducing synthetic inputs, and rebuilding cropland with cover crops.
Cover crops=Food plots...or a garden.

What really interests me about it all is actually building soil composition, instead of just using synthetic fertilizer. I'll be the first to admit, synthetic fertilizer is amazing, and I use it. But when I heard about BtE and what it is SUPPOSED to do, it got my attention. Plus, if done right, there's virtually no weeding, so they say. Lol
 


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