Antarctica hasn’t warmed in 70 years despite rising CO2 levels; climate scientists baffled

[Beagle Huntsman]

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The Mini Ice Age aka the Little Ice Age lasted for roughly 600 years, and is well documented, nothing close to a single weather event. It most definitely was a trend in cooling in the Northern Hemisphere, therefore your definition of climate change, but well before man’s onslaught of fossil fuel use. 1816 is also documented, happening during TLIA, supposedly by a volcanic eruption that produced frost in Virginia in July, and famine across Europe…. No potatoes in Ireland. Yes a single “EVENT” but changed weather patterns for a few years, but with much more concentrated green house gasses than we could ever do now, the climate settled out, healed itself, per se, but we are to believe that our use of fossil fuels will eventually change the climate more than other known historic events, or natural climate change from factors that we cannot control. The backbone of life is, as we all know is carbon, but in the useful oxidized form of co2 ( as pure carbon does nothing) along with water and o2. Co2 is converted to hydrocarbons by LIFE. We know that things are vastly more complex, but ask a brainwashed kid about these things: Water…ooom..good….02…ooom..trees… good… co2… bad… evil…..climate change…., yet all we are doing is recycling trapped and stored hydrocarbons for life to utilize again, but somehow with all of Earth’s history, natural climate change, and climate/ weather changing events, we need to go total EV in order to save humanity from evil co2.

Whatever it’s time span, we know mankind did not cause the Little Ice Age from the Middle Ages. So, as with other previous climate trends or events, discussing it seems irrelevant. What we are experiencing today has not been experienced before because our Industrial Age has caused it.

We do know for certain that the burning of fossil fuels, releasing large amounts of your evil CO2 into Earth’s atmosphere, along with Methane and other greenhouse gases, is causing WORLDWIDE climate change. Unlike volcanic ash, which breaks down and settles out of the Earth’s atmosphere in a relatively short period of time (based on size of eruption, location, etc), CO2 must be reabsorbed by trees, ocean, etc and can still remain in the atmosphere for eons. Even if we stopped using fossil fuels immediately, scientists say the effects of CO2 already emitted would remain for many many years.

I’m not sure what’s your point? Are you saying mankind has not caused the climate change we are living through now because we know climate has changed before? If virtually every climate scientist worldwide agrees as to the cause, and their beliefs are supported by sound data and facts, how can you even consider arguing otherwise? It takes a lot of courage to go out that limb, in my opinion.

 

[barney]

It's quite evident to some when others just butcher something they know absolutely nothing about glaringly evidenced by above post.

 

[barney]

Honestly, barney … it’s where you should be hearing it … from media held to journalistic standards … rather than Tic-Toc, Tweets, or unsubstantiated blogs.

HARD pass from me.

 

[WildmanWilson]

You guys should (for once) listen to Grouseguy. He’s spot on.

The evidence is absolutely overwhelming and indisputable at this point - that climate change is occurring, has been occurring for decades, and is accelerating. You have no basis for argument otherwise. It doesn’t fit your agenda, but frankly, you can’t stop it. It must be awful for you who “claim” to be non-believers to hear about it constantly from the media, and from those of us who understand what is happening to our climate and want to take action to minimize the catastrophe we are facing. ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, thank goodness for the Democratic Party and the United Nations and other organizations who are attempting to make a difference!!

You are stupid and gullible. You remind me of this meme. Fits you perfectly.

 

[grouseguy]

We could pick apart all of that, but to keep it short, I will just say climate change is about trends over time, not weather events like volcanoes or earthquakes.

BTW, Hurricanes ARE getting stronger.

Nearly 100% of the world’s scientists agree on climate change, so it amazes me that people still try to dispute it. Are people ignorant enough to think they know more than an expert scientist? Let’s give the benefit of the doubt and say they just don’t know what they don’t know.

You have to realize that this mismatched group on a hunting forum do, in fact, know more about:

Climate change than scientists,
Green energy than engineers, and
Viruses than doctors.

 

[drakeshooter]

We need to all have us a CNN degree like you two monkeys.

Anybody with a lick of sense knows to “follow the money”. These asshat “scientists” get paid with Federal grants with strings attached if they want more. I have a college degree myself and if I learned one thing during my edjumuhkayshun days it was that some of the absolute biggest dumbasses you will ever find on earth are edjumuhkated idiots.

 

[WildmanWilson]

You have to realize that this mismatched group on a hunting forum do, in fact, know more about:

Climate change than scientists,
Green energy than engineers, and
Viruses than doctors.

Funny that the engineers haven’t produced a green product that’s as good or cheap as what we have. Not to mention the slave labor used to produce it.

Funny that there are plenty of scientists that don’t buy into the doom that’s pushed in the climate change scam.

Funny that the virus was produced by scientists and unleashed on the public then used to force us into a complete debacle of mismanagement and relinquishment of freedoms.

Funny that you NEVER question anything your lib masters tell you.

 

[raidergson]

Look, let’s be honest, the man made climate change theory is derived from the left’s hatred of the fossil fuel industry which began 50 or so years ago. This hate has snowballed into institutionalized prejudice and climate change is the fear factor. There are so many models and predictions that no one, not even the most ardent supporter/ expert of MMCH via Fossil fuels adding co2, can put forth as a scientific law because of all the externalities, what-ifs, and etc s.
Modern Life as we know it and other forms of alternative energy ( at least in initial start up & materials) all rely on fossil fuels, as antler and rock really don’t cut it. I for one would actually like to conserve our precious fossil hydrocarbons just for materials. The ultimate goal is all form, and eventually deriving “ fuel” crops, not food crops converted to fuel, but possibly GMO crops for fuel. Think of a tomato that’s juice is almost diesel, can be grown anywhere, even in cumulative suburban/rooftop crops. That Co2 is then acute, as it is recently recycled every few years. There actually would be a net positive in carbon sequestering, unless The Whole plant is burned or fully decomposed. However, the left wants only to cripple the FF industry instead of a true focus, making laws that would only cripple most in modern society, equity, la, la, la, let the elite control the masses, scientists as puppet masters.

 

[EC]

Funny that you NEVER question anything your lib masters tell you.

Meat bots aren’t programmed for that.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

Look, let’s be honest, the man made climate change theory is derived from the left’s hatred of the fossil fuel industry which began 50 or so years ago. This hate has snowballed into institutionalized prejudice and climate change is the fear factor. There are so many models and predictions that no one, not even the most ardent supporter/ expert of MMCH via Fossil fuels adding co2, can put forth as a scientific law because of all the externalities, what-ifs, and etc s.
Modern Life as we know it and other forms of alternative energy ( at least in initial start up & materials) all rely on fossil fuels, as antler and rock really don’t cut it. I for one would actually like to conserve our precious fossil hydrocarbons just for materials. The ultimate goal is all form, and eventually deriving “ fuel” crops, not food crops converted to fuel, but possibly GMO crops for fuel. Think of a tomato that’s juice is almost diesel, can be grown anywhere, even in cumulative suburban/rooftop crops. That Co2 is then acute, as it is recently recycled every few years. There actually would be a net positive in carbon sequestering, unless The Whole plant is burned or fully decomposed. However, the left wants only to cripple the FF industry instead of a true focus, making laws that would only cripple most in modern society, equity, la, la, la, let the elite control the masses, scientists as puppet masters.

First of all, it’s no longer a “theory”. And we all should join the “left” and hate the use of fossil fuels. Future generations of humans, not to mention nearly every other species on earth, would thank us.

 

[EdLongshanks]

First of all, it’s no longer a “theory”. And we all should join the “left” and hate the use of fossil fuels. Future generations of humans, not to mention nearly every other species on earth, would thank us.

I’m going to burn a couple tires and some felt paper in your honor.

 

[drakeshooter]

Shoot some old Freon tanks just for the FOI…..

 

[EC]

Not even a theory. It’s fraud.

 

[EC]

Oops…just get a fed bail out. No problem. Only eating $6 billion.

Ford is about to break out big EV losses for the first time​

Ford is about to break out big EV losses for the first time

Ford's reporting changes amount to the most detailed look yet by any legacy automaker into the finances behind the EV business.

www.cnbc.com

 

[EdLongshanks]

Shoot some old Freon tanks just for the FOI…..

Guy would be crying hysterically in the fetal position at such blasphemy towards his beloved goddess Gaia