Ok, I'll come to the lads rescue. I know for a fact the caliber of deer he sees and hunts because I hunted the same property for years and still hunt the property that joins him. Not only that but he hunts another property that's got just as good deer on it. I've killed at least 6 bucks over 150 with a couple being over 160 and my biggest over 170. It's just a good areas because we've passed deer for years and sometimes it pays off. My spot is being logged this year so I'm not having the same luck but I guarantee he is on the up and up. I thought he was dumb passing the 8 the second time but if you have a goal and heart set on something special then I say more power to them.