Took the sweet little dog to a 20+ acre clear cut that's about 10 years old. Lots of briars and brush, no birds. It held a couple last year so I have hopes for it still. Took the old problem dog to a holler that was cut a few years ago, not clear cut but cut pretty hard, and put up one bird wide in front of the dog with no point. It cleared the ridge and took a ride on the 30 mph winds. A cold damp windy day but it felt good to get out.