Posted on the who's out thread but my 17 yr old is helping/mentoring his 19 yr old friend. The boys dad does not deer hunt, only hunts waterfowl and he'll admit he doesn't know anything about deer hunting. My son volunteered to do what he could to help. They went out this morning and my son rattled in this buck for his buddy. Jake made a perfect shot on his first buck. Not in Ky and shotgun only area.