LBLDOG, sorry I didn't answer your question when you posted it. I had a lot of physical problems about that time and didn't even see your message. I have a different method of placing my ecaller from most fellows; I seldom ever walk 50 to 100 yds towards where I want to call. I'll drop the call off on my way to my perch. That takes really knowing your land and when you want to make a particular stand, considering wind direction, coyote location, etc.. I don't use both my hand calls and the ecaller on all stands, but do use both on certain stands. Kinda hard to explain in total detail, but it is something you will pick up on if you hunt a lot alone. The use you described is a good one though, using a couple of howlers and then watching a few minutes. No customers show up, let the ecaller howl next and watch again. Less calling and more watching is good advice most of the time. If you are using the wind correctly, you don't need much volume.