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Kentucky Afield News
From KY Dept. of Fish and Wildlife Resources
<<...OLE_Obj...>> August 13, 2003 For more information
For immediate release Lee McClellan (800) 858-1549

Dove Season Looks Good Despite Wet Spring

The 2003 fall dove hunting season looks promising, despite the unusually wet
spring that delayed planting of crops that attract doves.
"I think we should have a pretty good dove season, comparable to last year,"
said Rocky Pritchert, migratory bird coordinator for the Kentucky Department
of Fish and Wildlife Resources (KDFWR). "We had a lot of rain, but not any
huge blows that would have affected the fragile dove nests." He said dove
population counts are very similar to last year.
But, the rain hurt the planting of crops for the popular dove lease fields
program. "This year was a challenge for our dove lease field cooperators,"
Pritchert explained. "The wet spring affected the program because of the
limitations on planting conditions. Some of the cooperators had to drop out
because of the wet weather. They just couldn't get their crops out on time."
Pritchert said dove hunters need to check the KDFWR's website at
for updates on dove lease field conditions. He said the same conditions that
hurt the program could impact private dove fields.
"Some of the big fields are ready to go, while some of the fields won't be
as good," Pritchert explained. "If you find a good field, they should have a
lot of doves. The birds may be concentrated on the good fields."
There is a bright side to the wet spring. Good hunting should spread
out over a longer duration of the season as fields that are not ready on
opening day come to maturity. "The hunting on some of the fields should be
better in the middle of September rather than on opening day," Pritchert
He said a recent survey of silage fields showed the good fields are
widely scattered. Dove hunters increase their chances of a...
Today, I bought a "cheapie" youth bow for my 10 year old daugther because every time I practice with mine, she want's to shoot it. Of course she can' we went out and got one she can pull back. Well as soon as she started shooting it, pretty decently, I might became a kid "magnet". So about seven of the neighborhood kids a bit younger than my daughter wanted to shoot it. I told them to ask their parents and they could. They all had a great time with and remarked that was the only time they'd ever done anything like this. Except one who said he had "shot a foam rubber arrow once"...hahah

Anyway, another boy came over and asked to try it out...he loved it. He's about 11 or 12. He asked me how far it would shoot and I said "this bow would shoot probably about 10 or 15 yards, unlike a rifle which I'd had hit targets up to 150 yards." He looked at me funny and asked "What's a rifle?" Just couldn't believe I would ever get a question like that...made me realize I'd been in the city too long or something. Thought it was pretty sad...

"A wise indian once said,the more you move the less you will see,the less you move the more you will see"

" I live to hunt, but my wife says i may be hunting a place to live"
i just read in the paper tonight that a fella in indiana was practicing with his wife and brother in law and shot some lady in an adjoining area right in the BUTT with a fieldtip....
the lady and her hubby had been looking at new cars on a lot..when out of the blue she begins to scream looking back they saw a arrow sticking out of her BUTT....picking her up and rushing her to the ER at the local hospital...while being treated the local sheriff was he and a deputy stood outside a fella approaches them asking if anyone came in with an arrow wound...
they told him indeed someone had....he begin to tell the officers he was shooting his arrow straight into the air when this happened (in a city mind you) then changed his story saying he was shooting at hay bales which upon investigation the officers found none smelling like liquor they did a breath test he was 3 times the legal limit..

he agreed to go for more questioning but jumped out of squad car enroute too the police station.....
moral of the story weapons and booze do not mix and always be sure of your background...
guys like this is what makes us all look bad....

"A wise indian once said,the more you move the less you will see,the less you move the more you will see"

" I live to hunt, but my wife says i may be hunting a place to live"
I've been working in the Cherokee Park area in Lou.& the last several days & I've been seeing a hen feeding as I drive through in the morning. Seen deer & other critters there but didn't know of any turkeys. I noticed it has a bad limp, like a broken leg, anyone else seen any turkeys there?

Ok this weekend I'm gonna go see if I can find me a hog.


Now does anyone have any suggestions like stay near water, or stay in a tree, or in general a good plan.

Oh yah Im leaving in about 6 hours!
In response to the thread regarding "most useless gadgets," I have the following to say: I have had difficulty with my hearing all my life with numerous surgeries and resultant hearing loss and nerve damage.
Several years ago I purchased two of Walker's Game Ears II. What a difference! Before this, I had difficulty hearing deer inside bow range. I can now hear deer on wet leaves at 100 yards. I can distinguish deer and turkeys from small game as they move through the woods.
My situation was unique, and results will vary. I suspect that people without hearing loss would not see near the benefit that I have enjoyed and would have difficulty adjusting to the devices.
As for amplifying the sound of the gun discharging, Walker's Game Ears does what it says: they shut down, thereby protecting your hearing (or what little you have left).
I saw this in the paper yesterday and forgot to post it on here.

A McCracken County man was truned in for poaching a wild turkey last month. In exchange for a lesser sentence he pleaded guilty to poaching a hen turkey with a 22 mag. He was fined $1,750.00, $122.50 court cost, had the gun taken away and banned from hunting in Ky for 1 year.

I wonder how much a higher sentence would have been.
I saw this post on another web site and thought it would be a good topic. The winner so far on it was the deer view mirror, which is a mirror attached to your tree, which enabled you to see behind you...
I just got the rug back from the taxidermist. These pics are of a bear I took last fall in Alaska self guided. Not the biggest of blackies, but a trophy and something to remember. The bear squared nearly 5ft exactly and was aged at 5 years.




Does anyone know where in Kentucky to hunt wild hogs?
I just found this site and I love it! I live in Lexington and I am an avid hunter and fisherman. Does anyone know if Clay WMA is going to have a dove shoot on 09/01? All of my private land contacts have dried up and I guess I'll go back to Clay[:(!] I've tried calling Frankfort and logging on the KY Fish & Game site, but it isn't working. (for me anyway). THANKS!
if anyone's interested, they're having a banquet tomorrow at the marion co elementry school(old school?) just saw the sign today. maybe you could get more info through thier website


The Kentucky/Barkley Lakes Chapter of the RMEF will hold its banquet and fundraiser Saturday night, Aug. 2, at the Executive Inn on the Riverfront in Paducah. Doors will open at 5:30, meal at 7:00. We have several guns and other good items that will be raffled, auctioned, or otherwise given away. Tickets will be available at the door. $55.00 single, $75.00 couple (both include RMEF membership). We will have fun![:D]
Kentucky Afield News
From KY Dept. of Fish and Wildlife Resources
<<...OLE_Obj...>> August 1, 2003 For more information
For immediate release (800) 858-1549

Blue Grass Army Depot Announces
Public Hunting Requirements

Richmond, KY, August 1, 2003 -- The Blue Grass Army Depot will be open to
limited public hunting this fall, following some new hunter requirements.
The dates and species open for hunting are still to be determined.
Public hunting will be available only for persons who have obtained a
security clearance from the Blue Grass Army Depot. To obtain this clearance
hunters must obtain a valid background check from the Kentucky State Police
and approval from the Blue Grass Army Depot.
A state background check can be obtained by contacting the Kentucky State
Police Criminal Identification and Records Branch at 502-227-8700. The
background check can only be obtained by mail, fax, or in person at Kentucky
State Police Post 12 in Frankfort between the hours of 8:30 am and 4:00 pm
Monday through Friday. The background check costs $10 and can be paid with
a check or money order made out to the Kentucky State Treasurer. Obtaining
the background check in person takes about 30 minutes. Obtaining the
background check by mail or fax may take two to three weeks.
The original background check (copies will not be accepted) must be
submitted by August 31 to the Blue Grass Army Depot for approval. The
security clearance approval will be valid for all hunts in 2003 on the Blue
Grass Army Depot. Persons who receive a security clearance will be sent a
notification of approval and a hunt application.
For deer hunting only, the original background check must be submitted with
a hunt application to the Blue Grass Army Depot by August 31. Deer hunting
applications can be obtained from the Blue Grass Army Depot by calling
859-625-6328 during regular business hours Mondays through Thursdays....

I am really wanting a good range finder but I don't know alot about'em or if they are really worth the money. They look like they would be great for bow season but I think I would use it the most coyote hunting. We hunt such large fields,it gets hard to judge distance,especially if the land isn't level which most isn't. Do any of you guys use them? If so what kind if you don't mind. I would greatly appreciate any info.

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Hello all, I would like some feedback, as I said in an earlier post, my wife is looking for *her* rifle. Not only a deer rifle, she wants to hunt russian boar with me also.(maybe more??) Now she is a good shot, and shoots my 30/06 very well, but honestly doesn't like the recoil/muzzle blast much at all(major understatement here). I've never seen her flinch or have any problems hitting what she aims for, but I understand wanting your own rifle!!!

After much research, and talking she has decided on a 7mm-08, as *her* rifle of choice, it DOES look good on paper, what I'm looking for is people who've used them, and just how the "add up" in the "big picture" of rifles. We also have a .243 which she loves(has a great deal to do with the choice here...) [:D]. So if you don't mind, and if you own one, used to own one, used one before, we'd love to hear about it! Thank you very much. (we are also buying our son a .308 for *his* rifle before Novemember.....he already shoots the 30/06 and his .50 magnum frontstuffer very very well!...proud dad here)..BTW he'll be 15 in November..this will be his b-day present!


Reloaders Haul Brass!
I went to my farm today after not having been there for about 2 weeks.
The hemlock plants have taken over. The open ridge is now overgrown with them. What good are they anyway? It seems that everything down there has grown like crazy in 2 weeks. I'm going to have to mow my roads down on my next day off or the weeds and such will be over the truck. Anyway, about the hemlock plants, do they serve any purpose beneficial to animals and if not, how is the best way to get rid of them or is it best to just let winter take care of them?

I was reading on one of the other topics and the discussion of the pheasant hunts came up. I have enjoyed the hunt at Green river the last 3 years. I was under the impression that the ones hunting paid for the release. $3 to apply and $25 the day of the hunt $28 for 2 pheasants. Is this also not like the trout stocking $10 for the permit which covers the cost or is there more to it that I am not aware of.
Just thought I would get your opinions pro or con.
I heard a rumor that Fish and Wildlife relocated the Geese at Painsville Lake not long ago. I usually hunt Geese there with my dad. I drove by last friday night going to the in-laws boat and never saw the first one. If anyone has any information I sure would appreciate it.


Ran into this on the web and thought I would share it.
Does anybody see a downside to declaring them vermin,shootable year round?
Was looking for any recommendations on climber deer stands. Which are considered the best, lightest to haul around, ease of set up, one's that don't need tools, etc...Thanks!
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that we have just launched a new site at

We will be working over the next week to get all the bugs out. After that we will spend more time updating and adding new features to this site.

I want to invite everyone to check out the new site and check out the forums there

Our goal there is to have a nationwide hunting forum. Everything here at will remain the same. We will be needing moderators at the new forum when things pick up, so if we have any volunteers just let me know.

anyone else out there using heated grips on their 4 wheeler[?] ....i spent this hot afternoon looking on the net for some and saw anywhere from $39-$150 range........i would like some advice being that there are times i drive over two miles to get to my stand and which may be a good brand to go with........ez
For me the most memorable thing seen was as follows:

I was walking in large washout going into floyds fork this was deep (probably 10 feet) and wide (at least as wide as deep) so I'm creeping along trying to make my way silently to the creek when I hear somthing above me.

Kind of a snort and ground thumping clump clump. I look straight up and a buck is right over top of me mid air jumping the ravine.
Anybody going to the Elk Festival next weekend? I'm thinking about heading down, never been.... Buddy has some property he's wanting me to see, so we're going to see that and thought we'd catch the festival too. Is it worth going to?
Permanone seems to be the only thing to keep deer ticks off, that works, but, is it safe??[?]
Spray it on your clothes, let it dry, right.
What about when your wearing those clothes and get wet in heavy due or rain?? Doesn't it "rehydrate"? It's been causing a rash on my calves. Has anybody on here questioned the manufacture on this??
Anybody else having a reaction?? Ten years down the road, I don't want anything turning black and fallin' off![:)]
Does anyone know what the phone number to Moultrie is..a friend called this evening to say that in the past few months his camera
takes a few pictures then it rewinds making him think its full but when having the film developed they are blank....
any help will be greatly appreciated...
anyone else had this problem
or anyone else have a cam they would recommend to him

"A wise indian once said,the more you move the less you will see,the less you move the more you will see"

" I live to hunt, but my wife says i may be hunting a place to live"
Notebook helps convict poacher

By Gene Mueller

From the Pennsylvania Game Commission in Harrisburg comes word of a recently concluded investigation by wildlife conservation officers that resulted in the arrest of a Burnt Cabins (Fulton County) resident, who was charged and eventually convicted on 90 counts of violating the state Game and Wildlife Code.
The man, obviously an egotist of the first order, documented many of his misdeeds in a spiral notebook. His often detailed entries helped convict him.
Michael Allen Lake, 38, was found guilty of 86 counts of unlawfully taking or possessing wildlife, one count of unlawful acts concerning licenses and one count of failure to tag and report big game kills. District Justice Brenda Knepper in Fort Littleton ordered Lake to pay fines of $27,750 and $420 in laboratory fees. Now his hunting and fur taking privileges could be revoked for 88 years.
In addition, Lake was found guilty of one count of unlawful use of lights while hunting and one count of having a loaded firearm in a vehicle in Huntingdon County. District Justice Mary Jamison in Orbisonia ordered Lake to pay fines of $700 and $1,715 in laboratory fees. On those two counts, Lake's hunting and trapping privileges could be revoked for an additional three years.
Lake came under suspicion when concerned citizens informed the game commission he had illegally killed a large, 10-point trophy-class antlered deer at night Nov. 24, 2002, more than a week before the start of the statewide firearms deer season. At both hearings, the courtrooms were packed, with local residents supporting the commonwealth's case.
When a search warrant was served at Lake's home, additional items were found indicating a long history of illegal wildlife killing. Seized as evidence during the search were 42 sets of deer antlers, several firearms and the spiral notebook that documented out-of-season kills of both deer and...
Took the kids to Salato today. The new living stream exhibit is very nice and interesting as well. The bears have grown a lot since last year and the wildcat now has a girlfriend since I was there last. The bull elk is in velvet and looking good. All in all it's a neat place to spend the afternoon. You need to check it out if you haven't had the chance to yet.

My brother-in-law was mowing our clover today and he killed a copperhead that was 44 inches long. Amazing what a good food plot will grow isn't it.[:D]
Has anyone ever had a tick bite that just does not want to heal? I am sure I did not get the head and there are no symptoms of Lyme (that I know of)... Were talking 6 weeks here.

- Rumors of my sanity are greatly exaggerated...
Does anyone know what stage of the life cycle coyotes are in now? What I mean is have they had their young and, if so, how far along are the pups?

I saw a large coyote on my farm a few weeks ago. He just about got on the tractor with me. I think he wanted one of the ice cold beverages I had in the cooler! I belive he's the same one I've seen several times now.
Kentucky Afield News
From KY Dept. of Fish and Wildlife Resources
&lt;&lt;...OLE_Obj...&gt;&gt; July 16, 2003 For more information contact
For immediate release Norm Minch (800) 858-1549


Danville, KY, July 16, 2003 -- A Boyle County man has pled guilty to 212
counts of illegal taxidermy and 32 counts of failure to maintain proper
taxidermy records. Robert Louis Johnson was ordered by Boyle District Court
to pay fines totaling $17,000, make restitution to all persons who had
taxidermy items at his business, or complete the taxidermy items within a
12- month period. The fines will be probated at the request of the Kentucky
Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources (KDFWR) upon completion of all
terms of probation.
The conviction comes as a result of a two-month long investigation by State
Wildlife and Boating Officers Stephen Isaacs and Rick Muse who charged
Johnson in March 2003. Johnson was found guilty on all charges.
"Johnson had been operating out of a garage on Salt River Road in Boyle
County," said Officer Isaacs. "He came to our attention when several
customers complained that he had accepted wildlife for mounting and had not
completed the work, and then moved without a forwarding address or phone
In a search of the property on Salt River Road, several spoiled whitetail
deer capes and turkeys were discovered in unplugged freezers.
"It was a very disorganized operation and the amount of
wildlife left behind
to spoil was a major concern for us," stated Officer Muse. Johnson was later
located operating out of his garage in Mercer County. Upon an inventory by
the officers, all customers were contacted and a list compiled for Johnson's
probation officer to use as a monitoring tool to insure that all items are
completed or returned as ordered by the court. Johnson will be required to
somwere on these forums was a link to fort knox hunting regulations ect does anyone have it [?]
I've never hunted on public lands, but have seriously been considering this as an option. One advantage is there are some that are close to where I live.

I've been wondering if I ever hunted in a WMA if it's just would be too crowded? I know there are some places like Ft Knox you have to have prior "permission", but in other places, do you just "walk in" without checking in? I guess I've been conditioned to "ask for permission" first. Then what happens if you've scouted out a place for awhile only to find out someone if there on opening day---what's the expectation or the "un-written" rule?

Appreciate any thoughts/experiences. Thanks.
Anyone know who won the rifle rafle at the HFH cookoff
did anyone go to the wild game cook out at field and streams today, it's off of bardstown road. they had some good food there. they had a representative from hoyt and mathews there also. food was good and i learnt more about the new hoyts.

&gt;--&gt; if it's brown it's down&lt;--&lt;
As some of you know i shoot a Darton Maverick 98 version
i have shot the dickens out of it...and my bus cables started to show some wear so i figured i'd send it in before season to make sure i didnt have a mis-hap mid season ...
NOT only did they return my bow within 5 days when i pulled it out of the box NOT only did they replace my bus cables they put on new limbs and new cams ........AWESOME CUSTOMER SERVICE
i assure you not many compaines out there would do i hope you'll consider this when making a decision on your next bow

"A wise indian once said,the more you move the less you will see,the less you move the more you will see"

" I live to hunt, but my wife says i may be hunting a place to live"
I got my patch today. They look pretty good again this year. Now, if I can just get drawn to hunt them big rascals.
My wife and boys spotted a black panther, two years ago in southern Jessamine County. It was slightly smaller than our black lab and sitting on a gravel road on a seldom used farm around midday. They got a good look when my wife mistook it for our dog and called out. The dog was behind her and the "cat" loped off. It was about 40 yards off and they got a good, unobstructed look.

Last year a sighting was reported near Wilmore, in Jessamine County, and the general assumption seemed to be that someone's exotic pet got away.

I winder if anyone has had, or has heard of a similar experience?

(Just discovered this forum today by the way).
When does one find out if they are 1 of the chosen ones for the elk hunt.
check out these pictures from mo.
The Living Stream exhibit opens at Salato Wildlife Education Center tomorrow. This exhibit is intended to model Elkhorn Creek. It really turned out well. If you have little ones you should take them by there if you get a chance. There's a viewing window under the stream so you can actually see what aquatic life is like from the bottom up.

After a request from the Kentucky Fish and Wildlife Foundation, Toyota donated the funds necessary to make this exhibit possible. Go see it if you get the chance. Admission is free![:)]
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