pics an outfitter friend sent me. these are public land gators in the Okeechobee area, can't use firearms on public land hunts. my son shot a gator with these guys last year on private land using a rifle. the two big ones in the pics are 11+ ft. they hunt hogs, turkey, deer, gators, exotics and bow fish. heading back next springbreak to bass fish and bow fish Okeechobee with this outfit.