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Discussion in 'Community Forum' started by Jughead, Sep 18, 2008.
Whats the law on gun racks now? Is it legal to put one in your truck now (with a shotgun on it)?
Carrying guns in vehicles can be a tricky situation. There are federal laws, state laws and local ordinances to consider everywhere you go. In general you can carry a firearm in your vehicle in KY in a gun rack in your window because it would not be concealed there (as long as you don't hang anything over it to conceal it or have limo tinted windows, etc...). However, some cities in KY do have ordinances against it. So there is no easy answer to this question. You would just have to check with the authorities in your area.
I use one of those racks that mount behind my trucks seat, I had never even givin it any thought as to wether this is legal or not. Seems like it would be concealed, is there a way to transport a hunting rifle or shotgun in a manner that is legal and yet out of sight of thieves?
You can legally transport your firearm out of plain view in a case (zippered or buckled) in your vehicle in KY in most areas, but again some areas have ordinances that are more strict (some of your larger cities)...it depends on where you are at. You would have to check with the local jurisdictions to see if they have stricter firearm tranporting laws than the state does in general.
Last I checked, local governments could NOT make ANY laws concerning firearms (possession, transporting, sales, etc) due to a state preemption law. That does not include prohibiting the carry of firearms in buildings owned by said local governments.
Being that I'm posting from my PDA, I can't go find the exact statute, but I'll post again with a link to it in a minute.
Ok, here's the applicable statute:
No city, county, or urban-county government may occupy any part of the field of regulation of the transfer, ownership, possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, or components of firearms or combination thereof
So, there it is in fairly plain English. Local governments may NOT regulate gun racks in vehicles. Although, you may run a risk of violating the CCW laws if the rack isn't in plain view. Simply get a CCW permit, and you won't have to worry about that, either.
I am mainly talking about if it is concealed, like in the gun holders you can strap on the back of your pickup seat or if the windows are darkly tinted, etc. The transporting of the gun is not what I would worry about, it is the "concealed or visible" factor to watch out for. If it is in plain sight then there should be no problem as long as you are not on property or in areas that prohibit firearms (such as certain government properties etc...).
A firearm is not deemed to be concealed if it cannot be grasped in one fluid movement. For example, a firearm in the sunvisor (how did that work?) a center console or shoved between the front seats is concealed. One in the glove box (according to KY trial law) is not concealed.
I'd say that there is no way to remove a rifle or shotgun from a behind-the-seat rack in "one fluid movement".
I wouldn't carry a gun in my truck on a rack for all to see. Why not just put a neon sign above it saying, "STEAL ME!"
if a cop walks up or by and see's it .its not concealed.
Any gun in a gun rack in a truck is perfectly legal as it has always been. A firearm is concealed if you can't see it but can retrieve it in one motion. Legal in the glove box. Illegal under the seat or under a jacket.
why was this thread moved?? it was a legit question to law enforcement.
keeping a gun in the glove box may be legal for some people with short arms who are driving big pickups but I can reach the glove box and take the pistol out if the box is unlock without too much trouble
If you have your concealed weapons permit, you can conceal a firearm in any fashion. Under the seat, in the console, or wherever. If you don't, then the only place you can have a handgun is either in plain sight or in the factory installed glove box, not the center console. You are okay with your rifle anywhere as long as it is unloaded and the ammunition is in a separate location. If you want to keep it loaded, then it must be in plain sight.
Your thread was moved because the KDFWR doesn't have jurisdiction over gun laws nor is that forum intended for the debate that this thread has turned into.
It is for fish & wildlife questions to the department.