Ethics Question: Should a hit count as a kill?

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  1. kymuskie

    kymuskie Fawn

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    An interesting question was posed on Randy Newberg's Hunt Talk Radio podcast: Should a hunter consider his tag filled if he hits/wounds an animal, but is not able to harvest it? Legally, it obviously does not count against the limit, but should the hunter count it? I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say.
     
  2. INKYHUNTER

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  3. EdLongshanks

    EdLongshanks 12 pointer

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    In some places that is the case. Didn’t uncle ted get in trouble for confusing the section he was in, in Alaska and continued to hunt even though he wounded but did not retrieve a bear or something?
     
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  4. kymuskie

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    Yes, they mentioned Ted getting a ticket for that. It's apparently the law in Alaska regarding black bears.

     
  5. EdLongshanks

    EdLongshanks 12 pointer

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    From an enforcement standpoint, it seems really difficult to make it work. Not to mention the powers that be want more deer kilt not less.
     
  6. kymuskie

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    No doubt that enforcement would be tough. I'm interested in whether people would/should self-enforce. If you wound an animal that you cannot harvest, should you count that animal against your limit? Would you have a different answer for different species?

     
  7. elkaholic

    elkaholic 12 pointer

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    Bad idea. How many animals are wounded and recover from the injury? What if you wound a nice buck early in bow season and you see him again later on? You have to let him walk because your buck tag is gone.
     
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  8. kymuskie

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    My initial post probably didn't make this clear, but I'm not asking the legal question of what the law should be, but rather the ethical question of whether a person should count that animal against their legal limit. In the scenario you described, where they saw the animal later and verified that it had not died, there would be no ethical issue with killing and harvesting that animal.

     
  9. Meatstick

    Meatstick 8 pointer

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    An ethical question about a legality contradicts itself more often than not
     
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  10. Feedman

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    Not if it is the same deer.
     
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  11. 1wildcatfan

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    i have done just that, called one in without recovering. now both of my deer were does, blood everywhere, in my mind the deer has to be dead but can't find it. now if it was a big buck, and a one buck limit......well its nothing but speculation until the situation arises. not sure what i would dio.

    called in one for my young son that we could not find. should have been stepping on it but it never turned up. i discussed it with him, it was his decision to call the doe in.
     
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  12. 1wildcatfan

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    it would be hard, if not impossible to prove to a game warden that you're in the right, that you only killed one deer but i would try it. tag it with same confirmation number, and hope you are not questioned.
     
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  13. elkaholic

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    That would cause a lot of extra bucks to be killed. No way to confirm to law enforcement that the deer you shoot was the one you shot earlier.
     
  14. muddhunter

    muddhunter 12 pointer

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    What if I shoot a deer that is injured but you have already claimed it as tagged? Is it a free deer for me?
     
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  15. Munson

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    U want me to punch my tag without meat in the freezer? Im all about ethical kills but c'mon now... it's a deer lol
     
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