Back to Eden Gardening

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  1. Gioacchino

    Gioacchino 6 pointer

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    Has anyone here ever tried the "Back to Eden" gardening method? I am trying it this year and having pretty poor results in comparison to how my garden did last year.

    Thanks.
     
  2. barney

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    I've known one honest to goodness organic gardener in my life. He also holds several degrees in plant sciences, and worked all over the US, mainly breeding vegetables.

    He said most berries can be grown organically, along with asparagus, lettuces, and meager harvest's of summer squash. He said no matter how much compost you apply to fruiting crops like maters, one cluster of fruit is about all that can be expected.
     
  3. Gioacchino

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    Thanks, Barney. I read a lot, and watched a lot of videos, before starting the Back to Eden project. Pretty much all positive info. They all did say that it’s a process that gets better with age. But I didn’t expect to not have anything grow. Time will tell. I’ve since fertilized the soil nearby the plants, but it may be too little too late.
     
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  4. It takes time and knowledge to build a truly living soil, chalked full of micro life/beneficials and the reward is amazing tasting food. But as Barney alluded to, you’ll never match production organically that you will get with synthetic fertilizers.
     
  5. katlynn

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    I haven’t myself but I was at a presentation recently about mushrooms. She said that she’d had excellent results when she added mushrooms. They help breakdown your mulch and have the added benefit of being edible as well.

    She recommended two different types...one for shady areas under plants and another for sunny areas. One was wine caps but I don’t remember the other.

    Her website is https://www.2angelsmushrooms.com
     
  6. Gioacchino

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    Interesting. I'll have to read into that. Thanks.
     
  7. barney

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    I will add..
    Many years ago I planted some sweet potatoes in a mound of 1 1/2 year old tree service wood chips. The potato production was as good as any I ever saw in my life! Harvest was easy too!
     
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  8. Gioacchino

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    Yep I think that's kind of the idea with this method. Over time the bedding will decompose and it should get better and better. Kind of frustrating though that things are doing really poor this year though.
     
  9. rlb165

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    BTE gardening is interesting to me.
    Lately, I've been trying to learn about microbes, and what they do in the soil.
    I am reading a book called JADAM. It's about how Koreans used to farm before synthetic fertilizer became available.
    One of the things the book talks about is JMS which stands for JADAM Microbial Solution.
    I'm just now starting to experiment with it, but I believe that JMS would work well with Back To Eden style gardening.
    There are a couple of videos on YouTube that show how to make JMS. Basically, you dig up a few microbes out of the ground and put them in a container of water and feed them boiled potatoes. That will make them multiply like crazy, and you pour the microbe-filled water where you want it after a day or two.
    I believe adding JMS to wood chips, or whatever material you're working with, would really jumpstart the microbe population.
     
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  11. DH13

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    I do a garden just like Dad showed me years ago. I plow it disc it. Put some fertilizer on it along with Chicken crap from my coop. Grows fine. Potatoes I use 3 BIG rear tractor tires. I drilled 2 inch holes on the tops so water can get in the tire. I mixed top soil and mulch. Plant my potatoes in them. Then when ready just take my hand rake inside of tires and pull potatoes out.
     
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    Like these are but tires I have are more closed to center than these. So that's why I drilled the holes so water can get inside the tire to.
     
  13. JR in KY

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    So.
    You want to farm like the Koreans and VC?
    Just go out and Crap in your garden, and get your neighbors to dump a load also.
     
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  14. There’s a book called Teaming With Microbes that’s the best start for anybody looking to grow organically. I used to have a link for a free PDF but it’s dead.
     
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  15. nock

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    Am I the only one how had to google “ back to Eden gardening “?
     
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