Outdoor furnance

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  1. duckman26

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    We are going to start building a house this spring and I was looking into heating with an outdoor furnance. I know a few people who have a wood burning furnance and like it pretty good. I was looking into a corn burning stove and was wanting to use it to heat the hot water as well. Just looking for advice and if anyone on here has one, where to find them some what locally, and just general advice. thanks.
     
  2. predator

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    My bricklayer just purchased an outside wood burner and is very dissatisfied with it. He got a big one to heat his garage and house with and has to fill it 3 times a day. I'd always heard good things about them and mentioned that something or a setting may be wrong with it. He gave around $11,000.00 for it and the heaters that go in his garage and is will take a beating on it to get rid of it.
     
  3. carpenterguy

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    To heat that much area you'd have to put some wood to it... I have a central boiler and love it. Got the base model that will heat up to 2000 sq ft. My house is about 1800 and so far I've managed to keep my electric bill below 170 bucks. Not to bad. I'm not heating my water yet either. Got to get that hooked up soon. From what I've seen in two years with it, It's well worth the money. But you have to have a good wood supply so If you don't wanna buy it you better enjoy cutting it. As of now it's a family work day every week for us and we enjoy the time outside together. Put in about 4 hrs yesterday afternoon. Good for the kids;)!
     
  4. C.L.Button

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    Be careful who you buy from. My buddy just got a letter from the EPA wanting to come out and set up a "pollution measuring device" on his. It seems that they are trying to make him buy a permit to burn wood & pay the EPA every year for that priviledge. They also want to tax him on how much wood he cuts/burns. He bought his straight from the mfg. What a bunch of BS !! :rolleyes:
     
  5. LoweBow

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    I installed a Shaver outdoor wood furnace last year and heat split zone 3500 sq feet. It's 72 inside today.

    The unit I purchased is very simple in design, boiler plate (not stainless) will heat water...I don't have mine hooked up yet....

    My unit has a 54" long wood box so I cut wood around 48" long...
    my wood cut time is minimum...I can cut 2 weeks of wood in a few hours.
    A 10 to 12" log...3-4' long is a heavy piece of wood and will burn many hours.

    Check into the unit you purchase as there is a $1500 tax credin going on w/ some rt now.

    I love ours and can't imagine not having it now. My LP bill was $45 this year, which is rental on the tank.
     
  6. I was wondering if the EPA and other hippies would get their foot into this.:mad: I was planning on maybe working for the EPA one day...but I am rethinking that very seriously
     
  7. Duster

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    He sure must be planning on burning a lot of wood to warrent that I would think.

    CL if possable could you get a copy of that letter ? I sure would like to see it along with a lot of others I am sure. I was just this morning talking with my insurance agent about installing a pellet stove and the amount my homeowners insurance may go up. He is interested in one of those outdoor wood burners himself. Said he looks for more and more people going to the stoves and outdoor furnaces simply to save on natural gas and electric cost.

    BTW...He told me as long as the pellet stove was installed as per manufactures spec's, with 18 inches of fireproof flooring around 3 sides with a protective back wall cover my rate wouldn't go up over what it is with the unvented gas log fireplace we have now.
     
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  8. LoweBow

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    The whole EPA thing is new to me. Never heard of that one.....
    Is he inside a residential area?

    Here's the tax credit info....from what I read, not all are elligable.

    http://www.outdoor-wood-furnace-boiler.com/
     
  9. C.L.Button

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    I'll ask him for it. Hopefully he has not trashed it. :)
     
  10. KICKER10

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    I just built a house this year and moved in in july. I had always had a wood stove in the house but decided I would get an outdoor wood furnace for my new house to keep down on the dust in the house. I bought a Hardy Heater. I love it. On an average day I just fill it up once. When it gets cold ( highs in the 20s ") I fill it twice. It does take a fair amount of wood, but I enjoy cutting wood. My house is only 1600 sf with a full basement that I heat too. The thing I like so much is it stays the same temp in the house all the time. I have a buddy that has the same size house as me. Back in the summer our electric bills were pretty much the same. This months bill for his was $197. Mine was $96. Same electric company. The heater I bought cost about $7500 installed. Over time it will pay for itself.
     
  11. predator

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    Help me with the math here.:)

    You say it saved $100.00 per month in the coldest month of the year, so let's say you are saving $500.00 per year on the average, divided by $7,500.00 equals a 15 year payback. Add back in the lost interest, assuming you paid cash, which would be about $300.00 per year, chainsaw upkeep and repair, not to mention your time. You must enjoy cutting wood!
     
  12. LoweBow

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    Predator,
    I can tell you mine is saving me 10x that much. When heating w/ propane only we were burning 1 min mostly 1.5 -800 gal tanks of propane per winter to heat our 3500 sq feet....being conservative w/ set the t-stat at 62-64

    Our electric bill has not changed from before, but now we have a yearly bill or $47 (propane tank rental) compared to ....say $2 per gal...x 1200 gal ...= near $2,400 per winter.
    but that's just for me.

    I have no problem turning the t-stat up to 70+ as it really costs no more electricity.

    We figure our will pay for itself in 4 years...maybe sooner w/ this winter!
     
  13. randy grider

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    I have one being built right now. By the time its installed I should have about $3500 in mine. At my current rates it will take a long time for it to reimburse me, but make no mistake..., TODAYS RATES WILL NOT LAST ! They are going up, no doubt, and if Obama gets his way with cap and trade, expect double within a few years. I work in a power plant, and with the millions my company is being forced to spend on new pollution control...., well,guess who is gonna pay for that?
    Plus I have tons of wood from ice and windstorms that has to be cleaned up anyway, so why not utilize it?
    If you really want to get the most out of you're stove, hook it up so it heats you're homes hot water as well. A hot water heater is the biggest electric draw in the home, next to the heat pump.
     
  14. pwillis4

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    what kind are you installing?
     
  15. KICKER10

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    I forgot to mention that I have a family of 4. My buddy lives alone. Therefore I use alot more electric w/ 4 in my house than he does. He also has a wood stove in his basement that he uses. When I built my house I didnt put a flew in because I knew I was going with the outdoor wood burner. I didnt have to buy an indoor stove. That takes a good hunk out of the cost for my outdoor stove. It also heats my water ( even in the summer ) by using the suns heat. If you dont like an outdoor furnace thats fine. I love mine! And yes I do enjoy cutting wood!!!!!!!!
     
  16. predator

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    I understand now. With 4 in the house vs 1, you are probably saving at least twice as much as I was figuring.
     
  17. LoweBow

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    Kicker...were you heating solely w/ electricity prior? Or did you have propane?

    I see no change in my electric bill from one to the other.
     
  18. KICKER10

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    I just built my house this year and moved in it in July. I had my outdoor furnace installed in October, so I really dont know how much my bill would be without the furnace. I had already decided that I was getting one before I started building my house. I was just comparing it to a house the same size as mine without an outdoor furnace. My uncle bought the same brand and size furnace I have about 3 years ago. He told me it cut his bill by 60%.
     

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