Nevada Rancher vs The Government... Who Wins?

Discussion in 'Community Forum' started by Matt Orr, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Matt Orr

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    Kinda surprised its not on here yet. What are the thoughts on the standoff in Nevada? Reports are saying that militia groups are heading to Nevada to support the rancher. Is this where it all begins???
     
  2. ResidentCombo

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    Kind of a bad example, since he has lost time after time in court, and he is grazing on public land without paying...

    Kind of like the people who keep putting their livestock on KY's WMA's then buy them back at the stockyards and bring them straight back to the WMA and dump them out... Then complain because the law took their livestock from where they have illegally grazed it for years....
     
  3. ptbrauch

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    From everything I've read on it, he's not a very sympathetic character.

    He used to pay grazing fees, then he stopped. I've never heard any reason why he stopped. Then they banned grazing on those lands over 15 years ago and now he's upset and now claims he has every right to graze there because his ancestors used to work the land. Which part of that is supposed to make me feel sorry for the guy?
     
  4. riverboss

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    I read he stoped paying because he was making improvements(watering holes drains on roads and seeding ) that the goverment wouldnt do. He has spent his money on things that helped his cattle. I can see it getting ugly with malisha showing up, This may be the start of something that has been festering in this country since Obama took over.

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  5. EC

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    This has Harry Reid's thieving hands all over it. Apparently this has nothing to do with any tortoise as the BLM originally contended. But want the land for their billion dollar plus solar deal. Besides, I understand he's had grazing rights since 1877.

    U.S. Senator Reid, son combine for China firm's desert plant
    Aug 31, 2012
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831

    Harry Reid Bolsters Son’s Interests in Chinese Solar Plant Deal
    Thursday, 06 September 2012
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...s-son’s-interests-in-chinese-solar-plant-deal
     
  6. C.L.Button

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    I see a drone in their future. Hope the militia has good radar and missles.
     
  7. EC

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    The FAA just declared it a "no fly zone". Think the gov't will comply with it's own rules?

    FDC 4/1687 ZLA NV..AIRSPACE MESQUITE, NV..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN AREA DEFINED AS 3NM RADIUS OF 364624N/1141113W (MMM71 RADIAL AT 4.3NM) SFC-3000FT AGL LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(1) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT. ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS UNDER DIRECTION OF BLM ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE AIRSPACE. BLM TELEPHONE 702-335-3191 IS IN CHARGE OF ON SCENE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACTIVITY. LOS ANGELES /ZLA/ ARTCC TELEPHONE 661-265-8205 IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. 1404112140-1405111434

    http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/notam_actual_4_1687.html
     
  8. C.L.Button

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    Interesting they used the BLM for the airspace restriction.
     
  9. riverboss

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    I just read on another site were the gov was pulling out for the officers and on lookers saftey. Looks like he has had a small victory, i guess they will just kill him in his sleep.

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  10. EC

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    There is a glaring problem with the BLM story. If this was a Federal court action, why wasn’t the Marshal Service in command and control? The courts do not use the BLM to enforce orders. Was Bundy served by Marshals before round up began? I think this was an illegal action and was all a thieving land grab (using BS tortoises as the excuse) by BLM executed on behalf of Harry Reid and the Chicoms--your love gods.

    The US Marshals would be clearly identified and should have been in control since this was claimed to be a federal court action. Not BLM. So this begs to question, who ordered this? It wasn’t a Federal Judge. The courts would only give it to the US Marshals! Since the MSM is a tool of the overthrow of the republic, the MEDIA won't do its job. Let’s see the court order and the Congressional criminal investigation of ChiCom-Harry.
     
  11. ptbrauch

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    FWIW, the location of the proposed solar plant and Mr. Bundy's ranch I don't believe are in the same area, except that both are in Nevada.
     
  12. Manzanita

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    This is way bigger than where Cliven Bundy's cows graze.

    [video=youtube;jMNaYyu-ci0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNaYyu-ci0[/video]

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  13. Manzanita

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    Oh, great. First I heard about Obama sending his kids there.

    j/k... it's militia.
     
  14. aceoky

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    Well, the BLM (since deleted) made it clear the cattle had to go from here due to the plans for the solar plant........ point being - they LIED about the turtles (which they themselves have been killing in fact) the very folks at the BLM behind this have serious ties to Reid.....coincidence- anyone Really buying that load?

    Manzanita is correct
     
  15. aceoky

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    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bundy-ranch-rory-reid-harry-reid/2014/04/13/id/565328/?ns_mail_uid=8434428&ns_mail_job=1564289_04142014&promo_code=df2fw3k4

    According to BizPac Review, BLM documents indicate that the federal property for which Bundy claims grazing rights were under consideration by a solar energy company. Those documents have since been removed from BLM's website, but BizPac quotes from one of them:

    "Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle."

    "Trespass cattle" is a reference to Bundy's herd. Bundy's family has grazed cattle on the land since the 1870s, and Bundy maintains he has grazing rights to the federal land.
     
  16. riverview

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    If this was a bunch of hippies raising goats on this same property, the same people who support this guy would be screaming, SHOOT THEM GOATS. From everything I have read the guy is illegally grazing his cattle on public ground. I don't know how you justify that. Do they want to use this ground for another purpose? I don't know, but it doesn't change the fact that he is illegally grazing his cattle.
     
  17. riverboss

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    Its more about the show of force they used to me. Its like Custard and the indians sure he wasnt paying fees but he had made many improvements with his money were they just took his money and never made any improvements. The land is better because of his work which may be why it was perfect for what they wanted it for.

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  18. Iceman35

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    It's hard to figure out what's really going on here. The mainstream talking heads seem to be giving this very little attention. Then, when I try to find some sort of info on the idiot web, I usually end up of some sort of conspiracy theory website.

    So what I've come up with is that it could be anything from "typical" federal cronyism involving Harry Reid, to the Chinese takeover of the interstate highway system. Throw in some, "the BLM was using agents that appear to be of middle eastern descent", and "its a false flag to draw out gun owners and institute marshal law", and it's pretty much a cluster f&@$ of false information.


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