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    Its like this these river fisherman that supposly hasn't fished anything in there life but the river are upset because they cannot catch "trophy fish". If you want to bring whitetails into the picture it would be us complaining that we cant kill a "trophy" whitetail because they can't find them. Big fish are like big mature whitetails they don't get big by being stupid. They don't bite every 6 inch bluegill that swims by them! Let's also take out of state hunting away! Seems legit, don't let out of staters hunt here and we can't hunt out of state! How many people would be angry! Your wanting to take someones buisness away but will continue to complain about unemployment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim T View Post
    . I also think it is flawed logic using the "Its always been this way" argument.
    Except for the fact that "it has been that way for generations" shows that commercial fishing in that manner is sustainable, and therefore no reason to ban it.... other than the selfishness of the proponents. Facts to the contrary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westkybanded View Post
    I don't think whitetails are in any trouble either. Should we remove restrictions on their harvest?
    We know they would be from past history though. Catfish are a highly renewable resource and I see no danger of overfishing them. First there aren't half the CF there was when I was growing up and secondly catfish are the coyotes of the water , tough and adaptable. Do you not admit that this is about big fish and not the population in general?
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    Good points everyone. I think we may start a new cycle on here. Elk season coming up, people complain about "the rich" purchasing landowner tags. Whitetail season rolls around, people complain about "out of state hunters leasing all the land". Now, when spring rolls around it is going to be about all the big catfish are being taken away "to Ohio". You can't even come close to comparing whitetail management, from no perspective, to fish management. That is why there are two distinct departments among most wildlife agencies. I mean if we wanted to compare it to whitetails wouldn't we say that everyone should only catch the big/trophy fish? There has never been any literature, research, or documentation stating that catfish populations are in danger of depletion do to over-harvesting. If they were, the first to know it would be CF and then that problem would take care of itself. I do agree, that if an issue did exist and the fisheries department recognized it and brought it to light, then regulations would be required. And I would accept that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by readonly View Post
    Except for the fact that "it has been that way for generations" shows that commercial fishing in that manner is sustainable, and therefore no reason to ban it.... other than the selfishness of the proponents. Facts to the contrary?
    Believe what you may, but Social Security was sustainable too, look at it now. Take out more than is being made, eventually there will be no more. This issue can be argued for the opposite as well. What about the people making their living on guiding for these fish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wademup View Post
    We know they would be from past history though. Catfish are a highly renewable resource and I see no danger of overfishing them. First there aren't half the CF there was when I was growing up and secondly catfish are the coyotes of the water , tough and adaptable. Do you not admit that this is about big fish and not the population in general?
    Ok, let's make it about big fish then. When my friends and I go noodling in the summer, we are only allowed to keep 5 catfish per day. We really only catch big fish. 12-15 pounders are the lower end of what we catch, on up to 70+ pounds. Why are those regulations in place? If there is no need to protect the larger fish from overharvest, then why are the limits there for the handfull of noodlers in the state? BTW- we almost never keep more than one large fish per person per year. A 40lb flathead will fill up a freezer pretty quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westkybanded View Post
    Ok, let's make it about big fish then. When my friends and I go noodling in the summer, we are only allowed to keep 5 catfish per day. We really only catch big fish. 12-15 pounders are the lower end of what we catch, on up to 70+ pounds. Why are those regulations in place? If there is no need to protect the larger fish from overharvest, then why are the limits there for the handfull of noodlers in the state? BTW- we almost never keep more than one large fish per person per year. A 40lb flathead will fill up a freezer pretty quick.
    Noodling is a weird deal to me all around, you can't sell them at all I believe? I really don't care if they dropped the regs for noodling either. Though noodling is kinda like catching fish in a barrel , literally
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    Noodling is a lot less damaging than setting out 100 hooks rigged with cut bait in a fishes living room!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c100max View Post
    Noodling is a lot less damaging than setting out 100 hooks rigged with cut bait in a fishes living room!
    Well actually for targeting big gosh noodling is far more effective than a trot line Heck I know a guy who gets tons of huge flat ties every year noodling. I also know a guy who runs a thousand hooks a day and doesn't catch that many in a year. You could run a 100 hook line every day for a month and never catch a huge flathead, the noodles I know catch em all the time
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    It's dead fellas, HB403 is gone.

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