committing the act.........?!?!

[ez]

i have made many posts on this site so here it goes.........scent lock and why do i wear it it when i am peeing out of my stand and freshening up the old buck scrap????????? i think if you all who are committing this offence are pretty silly..........here you are a deer hunter trying to conceal yourself and going around doing the p thing with no concern or thought about what you are doing...........i have never read ANY documentation or fact that this is a practice of any deer hunter in any magazine or article that this practice is so called "OK".........i do know that "P" is steril and can be used in case of an emergency for the washing of a wound when no water is available but why the whole clean/shower thing when i know that the old bucky buck knows a whole lot of difference between p, car scent or whatever you may want to put in his scrap..........i would like to know any of you or anyone you know has made this a practice and under hunting conditions killed a BIG BUCK and say i killed him because i p-ed in his scrap right befoe i killed him........ez

[P. Beyer]

I believe Dr. James Kroll wrote the article that <b>I</b> referred to.
It was published in North American Whitetail, I'm not for sure which month/year it was, I can remember that particular issue had another article about the King ranch in texas if this helps.

"It makes no difference whether I got anything; it has to do with how the day was spent"

Fred Bear

[Wildcat]

In the past 6 years I've shot/killed one 10 pointer, one 9 pointer and one 12 pointer that went to a scrape I peed in before I got up in my stand and in that same 6 years I've passed up close to 80 other bucks that were near my stand or scrapes. Studys by Dr. Knoll, Dr. Leonard Lee Rue III and at the Univerity of Georgia have proven that deer go to both scrapes that have been urinred in by deer or humans, in fact the deer went to the ones with human unrine more than the ones with deer unrine. Here's one fact, after two hours in the open air all unrine brakes down and it all becomes the same. The scent in a scrape comes from the glands. Has anyone ever seen a deer unrining in a scrape or just on the ground??? When they are working a scrape they unrine DOWN THEIR LEGS so they will pick up the scent from their glands in their hocks on their legs. Those parts on the legs that get dark almost black when the rut nears. That's what some hunters cut off to hang around their stands next time they hunt. I'm sure this is a family forum so we can't really talk about this like I want to but if we were face to face I could tell you just what the biologist at the University of Georgia told me.

What the deer scent and fear the most from us is our human body odor, our sweat glands give off odor. Anyone can smell another person. Forget about hunting now let's say we're going to a wedding. Now we shower, use deodorant and after shave. WHY??? We're clean and are not sweating so why do we do the other stuff?? To smell good? OR TO KEEP FROM SMELLING BAD??

I've been doing it for 6 years now without ever thinking about it, heck I ever thought everyone did it there was no one to tell me otherwise. A little over two years ago while living in Memphis Tn I found another forum about Tn deer hunting, they have over 2,000 members and at first when someone brought it up only a few did. Today over 60% of the members say they do it and have seen it work. They have also talked about it on the Realtree forum so I do know that some people across the nation do it.

When I first post anbout it I was just trying to pass on some info. If any of you don't want to try it or don't beleive me, that's fine. I don't care. We are in a one buck state and I have a place where we manage for QDM and are doing great. I also hunt places like LBL or a few WMA where the deer do not count toward the state limit plus I hunt out of state. I'm a happy camper. All I've wanted to do in this life is to deer hunt and pushed myself so I could retire early while I was still young enough to hunt like I always have, I'm 50 now and don't do anything but deer hunt. Like I said I was just trying to pass on some info. If I can help a few other hunters by passing on what I've learned great, if not so be it, I'm still happy.

Speaking about never heard of something. I never once heard about the insurance companies controlling the game depts until I saw it on here. Check out the Jan 2003 issue of Deer and Deer Hunting.

[taggedout]

ez,I don't pretend to to know it all, I don't now for sure the thinking of a buck when he reacts the way he does, could be agrivation cause I have contaminated his scrape, maybe he is just refreshening the scrape and can't tell the diferance between my urin or the urin of another buck, I don't know. I can tell you that I have had some wild reactions from Pn in the woods though.
About 6 yrs agoe I walked to a scrape just inside the woods off of the corner of a field to hnt over an active scrape. The urg hit me so I decided to see what would happen to this scape if I did the dirty deed. I then proseeded to my tree about 15 yrds from the scrape, hooked my Loggy to the tree, tied my cord to my stand, hooked it to my bow, hooked my feet in, hugged the tree and made one shimmy up the tree, now I am in the squat possition about 4ft of the ground with my arms wrapped around the tree and I can hear a deer aproaching in the dark. A real nice tall racked buck walks right up to the scape sticks his nose right in the middle of my puddle and starts pawing the heck out of it goeing in almost a total circle and rubbing his rack in the dirt and working over his licking branch then urinates and walks within ft of me when he exits. Never paid any attention to me 15yrds away or my bow. That buck was all around me for the next hour even after daylight, wheezing and snorting and cleaning his nostrials and just in a frinzy. Several times I have been hntn scrapes and let er fly and had to cut it off because of a buck charging in to investigate the sound. I once had let my bow down and then had a buck come running dn from a ridge to check out the splashing on the leaves and as he was workinthe scrape I tried to raise my bow back up and as it left the ground it drug across the leaves and was swinging in mid air, the deer looked at the bow and his eyes followed the line straight up the tree to me, can you imagin the expression on that bucks face. Now that was one educating Dec. morning for that Hoosier buck! I've got other wierd stories that I wont bother you with but I can tell you of about a 1/2 dozzen bucks that were not run out of the country from my urin and on of them is on my wall. But I have done dudy in the woods and that spot was'nt worth hntn the wrest of the year, the deer reactet about like the kids do when I use the hallway bathroom at home.[xx(]

Grummybear

[D.W.P.]

Ez, I'am more afraid of the noise it makes hitting the ground from 20 feet up than I am of it spooking deer from the ground. But, I still don't pee in scrapes. It would be my luck, a buck of a lifetime walks down a scrape line sticks his noes in a scrape I had just pissed in and then goes ballistic. If he's allready working a scrape line there is no need in doing anything to it. Why chance it. [;)]

[kyduck24]

I think I'll continue to take a bottle to pee in. Peeing in scrapes may work and probably does, I just wouldn't take the chance. Good hunting everyone.

[Strutter]

I have some very neat pics of deer checking out a rock in my clover plot that I pd on to see what they would do. I got a few pics then pulled my cam and when I went back they had nearly dug the rock from the ground. In one series of pics you can clearly see the buck coming to the rock from about 30 yards away and goes to it and sticks his nose nearly right on it. This convinced me that P doesn't really alarm them but makes them curious.

[Basswipe]

Call me dense, but am I missing something here? You guys are peeing in scrapes and deer are coming to it? I've always thought that the quickest way to spook a deer was to piss somewhere. I've always been fanatical about not pissing anywhere close to where I hunt. Have I been way off base and straining my bladder while hunting unnecessarily?

This thread is the first I've ever heard about pissing in a scrape, so please fill me in on the info.

[Wildcat]

Basswipe,
Like I said I've been doing that for years and though nothing of it. For the past 2 years I've been on another forum for Tn deer hunting and they started talking about it. 2 years ago only a few of us did it and had good luck then other people started trying it, today over 60% of the members do it and not one of them have reported a negative reaction. In fact one had a 10 point buck come to his scrape he peed in yesterday morning for the first time and he became a beliver.

Hey, I'm not telling you all to do it,if you don't want to that's fine. But I remember the days when the old timers told me rubs didn't mean anything. I know different today, I'm a rubline hunter.

[muzzy125acc]

pee on it guys

[raktrakr]

i guess id have to see it to believe it

raktrakr
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