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ecmbowhunter
09-19-2004, 04:29 PM
ok some say you can....some say you can't....somebody shed a little light on this to me....i need some help in the turkey dept[?]
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kyfanatic
09-19-2004, 04:38 PM
I always heard the trick to that was to scatter a flock of birds,then call them in.
skin_dog1
09-19-2004, 06:22 PM
Not much experience in fall turkey hunting, but They are most vocal in the fall(hens atleast). I think the key to fall hunting is to be where the turkeys want to be and then coax em a little with very soft and light calling. The flock busting must work cause thats what you read about mostly, and thats the whole idea behund the new law allowing dogs - bust em and call em back.
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turk2di
09-20-2004, 05:42 AM
Turkeys can be called to in the fall for sure! Mimick what you hear is a good starting point. Scouting is important, knowing which way they want to go in the first place puts u in a great position.
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sirgiovanni
09-20-2004, 03:20 PM
We just about called them into the camper a couple weeks ago when they were heading to roost. But other times they don't respond well. To me it just seems that one day is not the same as the next. Just because it doesn't work one day don't give up the next week. But, if they are not responding in any way to short soft calls, I don't think it will do anything but hurt you to get more aggressive in the fall.
mastin03
09-23-2004, 11:02 PM
Calling fall turkeys, from what i have found, is definately more difficult but can be done with the proper calls. Because of the fact that the hens have the new polts, a very simple, yet very effective call to use during the fall is the kee-kee run. Instead of conventional yelping, the kee-kee starts semi slow and then the pace is picked up to a series of 8-10 high notes preformed by saying..u guessed it..kee kee on the diaphragm. This is supposed to simulate a lost polt, or simply a turkey that is seperated from the flock. as the other posts have said, busting the flock is always good, and conventional calling still works, but the kee-kee is definately a call to be added to the arsenal for any fall turkey hunter.
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ksp771
09-23-2004, 11:25 PM
I did not try the KEE KEE RUN this weekend but probably should have. I had a couple cluck at my clucks and feeding pur but they never came in, I will try that this weeks hunt and let you know how I did. I bought some of the Game trackers Stilletto I will let you know how they do if I get the chance to get them in range.
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RutNBuck
09-24-2004, 07:21 AM
kee kee is the way to go or long yelps (assembly/lost yelps)
for those that havent mastered the kee kee ..find a plastic/metal dog whistle that has the ball in it...only take out the ball and it will make a excellent kee kee run....thats what Mr.Ben Lee used..and anyone knows of him knows he killed his share of turkeys
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schuyler olt
09-24-2004, 08:22 AM
Fall calling definitely works, but it is entirely different from spring calling. The first key to remember is that you are calling a flock of birds. Generally, a flock will not come to a single bird. It's important to remember why they flock up in the first place, and that is security. The more birds, the merrier. And if they hear a flock of birds near good feeding areas, they are more likely to believe that place is safe for them to go. That is especially true near roost areas in the morning and afternoon. A roosted bird hearing flock talk on the ground will hopefully think that will be a good area to pitch down toward.
So I use several different calls--I'll pull them all out of my vest and use them interchangeably. One is always, always a boss hen, and that one will make the long, drawn out assembly yelps. Calls with different volumes are important so that you give the illusion of distance between your "flock." I'll go through the routine of gathering, moving and feeding. In this set up, I never use a kee kee, which is a lost bird call.
The best thing you can do for yourself is go out some morning, get close to a roost and just listen to the calls, the amount of calling, the tone of the calling, and so forth. That's what you're trying to imitate.
I don't like decoys anyway, and I REALLY don't like them in the fall. Fall birds are constantly moving, which decoys obviously don't. Also, a flock expects the little group to join the big group.
In late morning or midday, I like to sneak very slowly and quietly through the woods, stopping often to look and listen. Every hundred yards or so I'll use one kee kee run and listen for a response. If I get a response I immediately set up and shut up. After fifteen or twenty minutes I'll kee kee again. If they come in, they usually do so very quietly. It's extremely important to be absolutely still, because it's typically a deal of 8 or 10 suddenly appearing out of thin air.
Somtimes I'll walk up on them. If that happens, I charge toward them and get them to fly. If possible, I'll try to get out ahead of the direction they went, and then do raspy assembly calls and some kee kees, then some gathering calls.
Good luck with it, but beware--fall hunting is addictive!
Multidigits
09-24-2004, 11:10 AM
I'd add that fall calling does work--sometimes! Lots of times they will show that they hear you, but won't respond no matter what you do. It's a lot different than spring hunting. But it's hunting.
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