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Jim in Annville
08-12-2009, 07:43 AM
Hope this is the right forum. My sisters boyfriend brought over another old gun toget my help in fixing it up and IDing it. It is a pump action 12 ga. on the top of the barrel it says Spencer RPTG shotgun Pat.APL.1882. On the left side of reciever it says F. Bannerman MNFR.NewYork. USA Model 1890. If anyone has any info about this i would appreciate it. Also does anyone know a good gunsmith that could work on it. Thanks in Advance for the help.

Combat Triad
08-12-2009, 02:40 PM
This is a Spencer model 1882 repeating shotgun. On the side where it say's "Spencer RPTG shotgun Pat.APL.1882" tells me this. The spencer 1882 was one of the first repeating shotguns ever made. On the other side where it say's "F. Bannerman MNFR.NewYork. USA Model 1890" tells me that this one was manufactured by Francis Bannerman and Sons in New York in the year 1890. Francis Bannerman & Sons Brooklyn and New York City. Founded soon after the end of the American Civil War by Francis Bannerman (1851–1918), a Scottish emigré, this gun dealing business grew rapidly. A move to Atlantic Avenue, Brooklyn, occurred in 1867, then to New York City: to 118 Broad Street, 27 Front Street and finally 597 Broadway. Bannerman bought such huge quantities of military surplus that he was able to equip entire regiments during the Spanish American War of 1898, and then bought so much more after hostilities had been concluded that an island in the Hudson river had to be purchased to store it! Frank Bannerman (1873–1945) and David Bannerman (1875–1957) had joined the business by the beginning of the twentieth century, forming 'Bannerman & Sons', and the purchase of 499 & 501 Broadway established the business as the doyen of military surplus businesses. Run in more recent times by Charles S. Bannerman, it moved to Blue Point, New York, in 1961. Though renowned largely as a dealer, Bannerman bought the assets of the Spencer Rifle Company from Pratt & Whitney and (despite a most acrimonious confrontation with Winchester) continued to make slide-action Spencer shotguns for some years. This particular gun would be worth around $500-$700 depending on condition. As far as gunsmiths go, I don't know any offhand that would be best to work with this type of shotgun, but I would try asking some of the cowboy action shooters that might be out there who they would reccommend. Hope this helps.

bassvax
08-16-2009, 10:34 PM
Just adding some unsolicited advice here....

If you any notion of using it as an investment I would talk with someone in the know before doing any work to it....seems I've saw several times over where a gun was devauled by being cleaned up and repaired with non-original parts.