which rim fire to buy

[riverboss]

Im looking to buy a new rim fire rifle looking at the Henry lever action or maybe the semi auto pistol i think its called the striker but i cant find them on the net . dont know if i want a 17 cal or a reg 22.i dont own a 17 but do have 22 mag and 22 long rifle .and suggestions?

[trader rob]

i have had a henry lever for about 4 years, it is a youth model. i really like it. for dog training and plinking i use it most every day in the fall.

i use a ruger 10 22 most to hunt with, i have one i have killed probably 200 squirrels with.

out of a dozen or so they are the ones i use most.

i have a couple 22 pistols, i like them but they are not too practical for hunting. i buy one every couple years to use hunting, but keep going back to the rifle.

the 17 can't do anything more than the magnum, although they are a fun round.

[Haves]

A .17HMR runs circles around a .22 magnum in accuracy. I would have a hard time going back to a .22 magnum.

[jeffb]

I have an old Stevens s/a, a Thompson Center s/a, a Browning s/a, a Ruger 77/22, a CZ 452 american, and a Ruger 22/45 pistol. The old stevens is a beater I have had forever but doesn't see much use anymore. The Thompson Center I really don't care much for and the only reason I keep it is it was a gift. Never have been able to get it to group to my satisfaction. The old belgium browning is a fun gun to shoot and I really like the looks of the gun. This is probably my favorite but is by no means the most accurate. The 77/22 seems to be a fine gun but I have only had it about a month so I haven't had much of a chance to get an opinion on it. The CZ is a shooting machine. Very accurate, nice lines. If I was buying a new hunting rifle I would buy another CZ. The 22/45 is a nice pistol. You get 3 clips with it which is a nice addition.

I don't have a lever gun like the Henry you mentioned. I have looked at the Browning bl-22 and really like them. Give us an update on what you buy. I always like to hear the opinions of actual gun owners and shooters.

[tkbuck]

If I was buying a new 22 it would be the CZ 452 American. Very accurate gun and I like the looks of them to.

[Marmot_Militia]

Im looking to buy a new rim fire rifle looking at the Henry lever action or maybe the semi auto pistol i think its called the striker but i cant find them on the net . dont know if i want a 17 cal or a reg 22.i dont own a 17 but do have 22 mag and 22 long rifle .and suggestions?

The Charger is the semi auto pistol based on the 1022 from Ruger.

www.rimfirecentral.com is probably the best place to ask.

I have had several of each and like the 17M2. The 22mag was the worst accuracy wise, but packs the biggest punch. There are a lot of things you can do to the Rugers to make them your own.

Be careful of the 17HMR in semi auto, they have problems firing when not in battery...not a good thing. It has to do with the length of the cartridge and timing of the hammer strike. Too early of a hammer strike means the bolt is open when the primer is struck.

Good luck and let us know what you get.

Regards,
MM

[Hoosier5]

I'd be careful buying any .17 Rimfires. With what is going on currently with the "shortages" of ammo, the companies might discontinue loading some calibers of ammo, inorder to load up the more popular calibers.

[ptbrauch]

Along those lines, is anyone having problems finding .22lr cartridges? My inlaws called last night and left me a message about finding them some. I haven't talked to them, so I don't know exactly what they're talking about, but I figured I'd check on that aspect while I was on here.

[trust me]

You want looks and accuracy, go with the CZ 452 American. Wow.

You want cheap and dependable, go with the Ruger 10/22 or Marlin bolt.

You want an investment, buy a used Remington 541, Cooper, an old Winchester 52 or 75, sit back and watch the value go up.

I haven't played with any of the 17's but I can't think of much the old 22 LR can't do for me. Cheap and plentiful ammo (usually, and will be again) and the barrels last several lifetimes.

[headoftheholler]

I will throw the Marlin 39A in. A little pricey but will last several lifetimes, will shoot shorts, longs, and long rifles, laser accurate, lever action quickness, and all 39A's are breakdown models to boot.
2nd choice would be a Browning BL22.
Andrew

[CanisMajor]

I just took my Savage Mark II-G (http://www.savagearms.com/markiig.htm) out again today. The more I shoot this rifle, the more I like it. I have a 4x32 Nikon on it, and I was easily tearing up a 16 oz. plastic water bottle at over 110 yards. I didn't shoot any paper, but I'd bet it shoots 1-2 MOA. Nicest bolt .22 I've ever owned for sure. The only complaint I have is I occasionally have a failure to feed. But I think it is my fault due to short-shucking the bolt. Their support is top notch too; I called about the FTF's when I first got it and they sent me a new magazine at no charge to see if that might fix it.
http://www.savagearms.com/images/rimfire/mark11g.jpg

[dbd870]

I'm sort of there myself - I have 22lr's and a 22Mag. A guy has a CZ452 American for sale in 17HMR and I'm kicking around the idea of picking it up.

[ricky280]

I will throw the Marlin 39A in. A little pricey but will last several lifetimes, will shoot shorts, longs, and long rifles, laser accurate, lever action quickness, and all 39A's are breakdown models to boot.
2nd choice would be a Browning BL22.
Andrew
I couldn't agree more on the 39A, I have owned one nearly 40 yrs and it was used when I got it,hard to beat the old 39A'S.

[matewsq2]

A .17HMR runs circles around a .22 magnum in accuracy. I would have a hard time going back to a .22 magnum.
i dont agree with that i know where there a mag that will shoot with any 17 if not out shoot them.;)

[matewsq2]

savage 17 mach 2 they are cheap will shoot realy realy good an cheap to shoot i loved the one i had an will have another one

[stalkingbear]

You're talking in generalities. I have a Kimber of Oregon .22mag that groups in 1 ragged hole at 50 yards, and under 1/2" at 100.



A .17HMR runs circles around a .22 magnum in accuracy. I would have a hard time going back to a .22 magnum.

[ricky280]

You're talking in generalities. I have a Kimber of Oregon .22mag that groups in 1 ragged hole at 50 yards, and under 1/2" at 100.

Thats pretty good what brand of ammo you using? I have Kimber of Oregon and the best its ever done is 1/2 at 50 yds and a 1 inch consistently at 100 yds and I am very satisfied with that. And thats the overall 5 shot group, Not center to center of bullet holes.

[stalkingbear]

Would you believe the cheap winchester 40 gr hollow point? I can give you the lot number if you like. The serial of mine is 3 digits-sub 600.

[Haves]

You're talking in generalities. I have a Kimber of Oregon .22mag that groups in 1 ragged hole at 50 yards, and under 1/2" at 100.


That is true. But a Kimber is an expensive rifle. A cheap .17HMR will do that without breaking a sweat.

[rock802]

i have a ithica 22 mag that i would trade for a 17

[randy42501]

Due to Obama scare even 22 amo being bought up.Looks like amo makers would increaes production.I like to target shoot alot but had to give it up,no amo.was also going to buy a couple of pistols and a AR this year but no since in that with no amo.Guess we have done to ourselves what antis couldnt.

[Hoosier5]

Due to Obama scare even 22 amo being bought up.Looks like amo makers would increaes production.I like to target shoot alot but had to give it up,no amo.was also going to buy a couple of pistols and a AR this year but no since in that with no amo.Guess we have done to ourselves what antis couldnt.

Before anyone buys a rifle, pistol, or shotgun they should first see if ammo is still available for them. A lot of gun buyers are buying these newer cartridges like Short Magnum types like: .223 WSSM, .270 WSM, and a host of other new cartridges & finding out they can't find any ammo for their rifles or pistols. These companies might just quit making these so they can concentrate producing the more popular loads like the regular .270, .30-06, .308 and such.

[trader rob]

Due to Obama scare even 22 amo being bought up.Looks like amo makers would increaes production.I like to target shoot alot but had to give it up,no amo.was also going to buy a couple of pistols and a AR this year but no since in that with no amo.Guess we have done to ourselves what antis couldnt.

a little off the topic, but do you know of anyone that has been able to buy in a big supply of ammo? i hear it is because of demand, and it may be, but i personaly know of not one person that has been able to buy a large amount of ammo. where is it going?

[riverboss]

Well i shoped around today and bought a Savage 93R 17 cal with accu trigger,its not the lever action that i was looking for but i realy liked it and the accu trigger it was a plus. I havent shot it yet waiting to put the scope on 3x9x40 will let you know how it shoots later.

[riverboss]

Well im amazed this thing realy shoots 50 yrds 3shots touching with cci bullets, ive heard that the hornadys are more accurate if they are i wont be able to tell.Shot a starling and the only thing left were its wings.I had to do alittle adjusting on the trigger it wouldnt get any liter than about 2lb now its about 10 oz,and it is sweet.cant wait for fall squirel.

[matewsq2]

Well im amazed this thing realy shoots 50 yrds 3shots touching with cci bullets, ive heard that the hornadys are more accurate if they are i wont be able to tell.Shot a starling and the only thing left were its wings.I had to do alittle adjusting on the trigger it wouldnt get any liter than about 2lb now its about 10 oz,and it is sweet.cant wait for fall squirel.
wont be any thing left of a bushy tail.i would have got the mach 2 for bushy tails.they mess them up but not like the hmr.

[wked]

matewsq2, I know you have a 22 mag, have you ever shot any rem 40gr psp? I just got some and wonder how they will work on squirrels (besides head shots). The cci hp's are a bit much! I had some fiocchi soft points and they worked pretty well. They had a very flat nose with quite a bit of exposed lead. The rem's have much less exposed lead and the nose is very pointed. They look good but I don't know if they will expand quick enough to provide any "shock".