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chancey021
06-14-2009, 09:17 PM
Ok... so I have been very unhappy at my job lately and I am very unappriciated. My boss cusses me like I'm his son and I have just taken it because I had no other options for the longest time.

The company I use to work for has an immediate opening and I LOVED working for them.

They need me to start Tuesday... but will work around a notice if I decide to give current boss a notice.

If you were treated like S*&T everyday and cussed at like a little kid would you give your employer a notice? The way I see it is if he does not respect me then why should I respect him now.

What would you all do?

WhiteRubi
06-14-2009, 09:27 PM
NEVER burn a bridge because you never know. Try to stick it out the 2 weeks. When i left my job, I gave 2 weeks. They said thanks but no thanks and paid me the remainder of the 2 weeks.

chancey021
06-14-2009, 09:28 PM
Thanks for the reply whiterubi!

BadDuck
06-14-2009, 09:29 PM
Regardless if you like them or not you need to give a notice. If you ever look for a job again they will be on your application. Legally your former employer can only say certian things if called but I can tell you for fact that there are plenty of off the record conversations that take place among HR people.

barney
06-14-2009, 09:34 PM
Ok... so I have been very unhappy at my job lately and I am very unappriciated. My boss cusses me like I'm his son and I have just taken it because I had no other options for the longest time.

The company I use to work for has an immediate opening and I LOVED working for them.

They need me to start Tuesday... but will work around a notice if I decide to give current boss a notice.

If you were treated like S*&T everyday and cussed at like a little kid would you give your employer a notice? The way I see it is if he does not respect me then why should I respect him now.

What would you all do?
If its as bad as you say, I'd let my attorney give him notice. Harassment at your place of employment is illegal.

hwright
06-14-2009, 09:35 PM
You should give a notice. Maybe it will not bite you in the end but it could, and that makes it worth it. Besides that why should you sink to their level.

Man up and finish what you started... HEATH

slickhead slayer
06-14-2009, 09:36 PM
Your new employer would respect you more if you gave your old employer notice.

matewsq2
06-14-2009, 09:53 PM
Why give them a notice they wont give you one if they fire your arse

Rob
06-14-2009, 10:47 PM
Like my Granny used to say, two wrongs don't make a right. If you know for sure you have the new job, go in, look your boss in the eye, & give him two weeks notice.

duckslayer870
06-14-2009, 10:53 PM
Give notice and If he asks why you are leaving. Be polite but blunt and tell him that you were tired of being treated poorly and you have decided to leave.

Art
06-15-2009, 05:57 AM
Tough call. If you think there's ANY chance you might need that job in the future, I'd leave a notice. If not, walk in there and tell your boss to #&&*((^$# ^%*#***$!!!!!

I did that years ago. I gotta tell you, it felt GREAT! There was a short time when I wished I would have given a notice, BUT now I'm glad I did it the way I did. I won't be disrespected or be the target of mind games by ANY employer. No one should. If you do leave a notice, I'd still tell them how you feel.

quackrstackr
06-15-2009, 06:28 AM
they wont give you one if they fire your arse

This is true.

I've never quite understood why it is considered required practice to notify an employer of an employee's intention to leave 2 weeks ahead of time when the company just escorts the employee straight out the door without any notice when they are fired or "layed off".

I know what it's like to be miserable at a job and absolutely hate to get up every morning. They got no notice from me.

I have given notice a couple of other times.

Tough call.

mrdux
06-15-2009, 06:54 AM
Art, I worked for your employer (AM presort was my last position--all part-time) for a couple of years in the 70s. I went in the office one morning to give my 2 weeks notice and all was cool. When I reported to work the next morning, I was put on the crappiest job there,not my regular job. The next morning I went into the supervisors' office and asked why, as a good employee with ZERO problems on my record, I had been put on a crap job rather than my normal job for the rest of my notice. He said he was the boss and he could put me ANYWHERE he wanted to. I told him then that there was a door right behind me and I was going to head back to my home and then my new job RIGHT THEN if I wasn't assigned to my regular job. I knew they were short handed and didn't have a replacement hired so my leaving would have caused grief for them. I got my regular position for the balance of my notice period. I figured the Supervisor gave me a bad review over that incident but it hasn't kept me from working since. Some times you just have to do what you have to do!

patiodaddy
06-15-2009, 08:07 AM
I agree with Art, I told my boss off after 17 years and quit. Best thing I have ever done in my life and I will not take crap from any bosses anymore. Life is too short.
Go in there and tell him you are quiting and why, chances are he is going to cuss you real good and tell you to get out NOW! lol:D

drakeshooter
06-15-2009, 08:23 AM
Your new employer would respect you more if you gave your old employer notice.

I agree. We question prospective employees during the interview stage on whether they are currently employed and if they intend to give a two-week notice. Their response figures greatly into whether or not we hire, cause it speaks volumes about their character and work ethic.

philipfleek
06-15-2009, 08:31 AM
The boss at DHL had security escort me out of there..;)

Don't think he liked me much...:D

naturalelite
06-15-2009, 08:40 AM
I think it is totally wrong not to notify your employer of your intentions. I can assure you not giving a notice doesn't just hurt your employer but also your co workers. I agree 100% employees should feel needed and treated right and if you aren't then it is time to go but with a notice.
To me there are two reasons to quit without a notice. If it is a safety issue where you are being asked to do things you feel unsafe. The other is the first time he started cussing you. Tell him you do not work under these conditions and if he can't refrain you will be forced to leave. If at that time he doesn't stop I can totally see leaving without a notice.

headoftheholler
06-15-2009, 08:53 AM
This hits home, just last week I had an assistant manager for me turn in his keys and quit with no notice. Mind you, we had a good relationship and are still friends regardless of working conditions. With that said. his chances of receiving an excellent job reference in the future and any chance of rehire have nose dived from the lack of a two week notice. As an employer it is a must.

quackrstackr
06-15-2009, 09:08 AM
As an employer it is a must.

Interesting.

Do you give an employee two weeks to find himself another job when they are no longer needed?

headoftheholler
06-15-2009, 09:20 AM
Interesting.

Do you give an employee two weeks to find himself another job when they are no longer needed?

We haven't had a layoff in 25 years, so in that sense no.
If we are terminating an employee, they have done something to
deserve it. I'm not going to give a thief an additional two weeks
to continue to steal, likewise with an employee that never shows up.

Tim T
06-15-2009, 09:25 AM
The boss at DHL had security escort me out of there..;)

Don't think he liked me much...:D

I was escorted out of the sports department at the Courier-Journal a few years back. It was pretty funny because the security officer that was escorting me out was a guy I went to high school with and we both got a good laugh out of it.

BowHunterScott
06-15-2009, 09:39 AM
Wish i could just find a job LOL!

12 pointer
06-15-2009, 09:52 AM
Wish i could just find a job LOL!

You got a job.........The Army.:) My son is headed to Campbell to try to get a job as an MP on post.:):mad:

buckfever
06-15-2009, 10:24 AM
If its as bad as you say, I'd let my attorney give him notice. Harassment at your place of employment is illegal.

You'd be paying your attorney for nothing. It's not illegal to "harass" an employee, so long as the harassment isn't based on faith, age, sex, etc. etc.

You can be as mean as you want to your employees, and there's nothing illegal about it. Poor business practice, but hey, it's your business.

In this case, his employer sounds like an overbearing ogre, but there's nothing the employees can do except quit.

Take the other job, but tell your present employer asap and give him as much notice as you can. He'll probably fire you on the spot, but that's OK. You've got another job.

Regardless, I certainly wouldn't pass up an opportunity to be happy for years to come and remain unhappy into the forseeable future, simply b/c you felt obliged to give your present employer 2 weeks of "notice".

screamin6x6
06-15-2009, 10:33 AM
I once gave a boss a 2 day notice. I told him, "I'm leaving 2 Day.":o

naturalelite
06-15-2009, 12:18 PM
I once gave a boss a 2 day notice. I told him, "I'm leaving 2 Day.":o
LOL that was a good one.

reivertom
06-15-2009, 12:56 PM
I had a boss that cussed me once too many and I told him to shove it one day.I Told him that I wouldn't be talked to like that especially for minimum wage. I never regretted it. If you have another job in the wings I'd go for it, They may not be able to wait for you. Do a good job for the new boss and stick with it for a while and you will get your good reference.

jeffb
06-15-2009, 02:05 PM
From the way you describe him I doubt if he would give you a good reference even if you give notice. If you think you are going to be in your new job for a while, then I wouldn't worry about giving him notice. In my experience most employers only call your last or current job anyway. Just don't give the guys name as a reference.

KYBOY
06-15-2009, 02:49 PM
Ive usually gave notice but I have personally saw folks who gave notice get asked to leave right then and there and then the employer lied about them giving notice. It depends a lot on the employer.Some will lie about it just to be spiteful.;)
I was asked to be a witness in a unemployment hearing once because of such an issue...My buddy gave notice and they just let him go and he was a fine employee..

yote hunter
06-15-2009, 03:48 PM
if a employer has treated me fair and square i would give him at least 2 weeks notice but if they have treated me like dirt all they would get is a phone call.

Art
06-15-2009, 06:57 PM
The boss at DHL had security escort me out of there..;)

Don't think he liked me much...:D

I was sent as an employee liaison to a corporate meeting for FedEx in Indy a few years back. I had a few things I needed to get off my chest.:D Shortly there after I was banned for life from the FedEx Corp. Now I work for their arch nemesis.:D

etownhunter
06-15-2009, 11:37 PM
if you need to use them as previous work, and a reference, ya better do em right. Ya never know when your gonna need a good resume!

bucksnbugs
06-16-2009, 04:02 AM
I worked at a place that I was not quite happy at, but my foreman was a good man.
When I did get another job, I went and talked to him. My beef was not with him but some of my co-workers and management. I felt as if I was waisting my life away.
When I talked to my foreman he told me not to give a notice, but I was not raised that way.
I put in for the 2 weeks vacation that I was due and I gave my notice 1 week before I left on vacation. ( Started my new job as soon as I left)
That gave my employer 3 weeks notice. I took alot of grief from my co-workers on how could I give up the BEST job in the valley. I also had some meeting with the HR people and the plant maintenance supervisor. It was then during my last week there I got off my chest why I was leaving. Then I felt good and I felt right about leaving with giving 2 weeks notice.

Art
06-16-2009, 06:00 AM
if you need to use them as previous work, and a reference, ya better do em right. Ya never know when your gonna need a good resume!

I was under the impression that the common practice today is that former employers cannot divulge any details about you employment history. Seems like all they can tell someone that inquires about you is that you did work there for whatever time period?

Duster
06-16-2009, 06:19 AM
I was under the impression that the common practice today is that former employers cannot divulge any details about you employment history. Seems like all they can tell someone that inquires about you is that you did work there for whatever time period?

My Wife was HR for a couple differant companys one being K-Mart. She says unless the rules have changed she was not allowed to give out much information when called for a referance. Not to say one HR person can't tell another other information if ask and they are willing to give it out. The hardest thing to fire a employee for believe it or not is theft and if you tell that unless you have positive proof your opening you and your company up for a lawsuit. And will most likey be defending yourself in court anyway.

drakeshooter
06-16-2009, 07:32 AM
.....The hardest thing to fire a employee for believe it or not is theft.....

Really? My company does it all the time.

naturalelite
06-16-2009, 07:32 AM
I was under the impression that Kentucky was an "at will" state. I am pretty sure I can walk in an fire someone just because I felt like it that day without any repercussion. Of course that is an extreme example but you get the picture. Simply telling them "you are no longer needed" is reason enough.
http://research.lawyers.com/Kentucky/Employment-Law-in-Kentucky.html

patiodaddy
06-16-2009, 08:01 AM
Actually, most if not all employers will only verify dates that you worked and whether or not they would rehire you. This all started about 20 years ago when the Lawyers needed something to sue someone for. It was explained to us in HR classes that to give someone a bad reference was akin to slander. It just becomes a matter of your word against theirs.

I am going to hit the POWERBALL this Wednesday anyway, I am not sure if I am going to even call UK and tell them anything!;)

ceohunter
06-16-2009, 08:37 AM
Future/Potential employers can ask interviewees to sign a consent release to their past employers to fill out information about them. If the employer you are interviewing with offers the job contingent upon reference checks and asks for you to sign a consent form and you refuse....red flag.

chancey021
06-16-2009, 09:22 AM
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chancey021
06-16-2009, 09:26 AM
Well it went a lot better than expected. I had decided if he was rude I would just tell him I was done, but instead he tried to get me to stay!!! He was as kind as he was the day he tried to hire me! Ohh well he asked me to stick around til friday and I am gonna give him that courtesy. I will be a lot happier when I get back to my old employer... Should have never left grass was not greener!

JDMiller
06-16-2009, 09:41 AM
At MSU.... I did the hiring & firing for my department. Being a state entity.....we had pages & pages of rules from the interview process...hiring... disciplinary process and termination.

As far as the termination portion.... it did'nt matter if you fired the person for whatever reason or they were one of your best employees and they left in good terms. If you received a call from a perpective employer of that person.... you could only dilvulge information to the effect ...yes their employment began on said date...and ended on said date. Just verification that they were employed with us.

We were not allowed to respond to questions concerning the work history of that employee or why the left their position. They could have been fired for theft... sexual harrasment.... altercation....did'nt matter... you could not elaborate good or bad on that person.

On the flip side of this.... if I was researching an application and I called someones present employer ...for over 15 years of being a supervisor.. I never heard any employer say anything bad. If they began to really brag... it honestly threw up a red flag to me. They may have gave me bad info just so I would hire and they would be rid of them. I just could'nt trust the information being told in 99% of perspective hires.

I just came to the conclusion its just a 50/50 chance on a new hire that it would work out. Skills & job knowledge was honestly secondary with our positions... with every hire there was training and apprenticeship...so past experience was'nt too much of a influence. The beginning(first 5 minutes) of the interview process and the first impression is what made most my decisions...good or bad. Luckily we had a 6-month probationary period that allowed me to get rid of that person without jumping through too many hoops. Usually within 6 months of actually working in the position... it told the real story.

As far as the 2-week notice.... in our case the notice was necessary to receive your last pay in a timely manner. You were going to get it legally & regardless.. but it might be 6 weeks if you just left or quit your position. It might not be right... but its what was done.

12 pointer
06-16-2009, 09:47 AM
Well it went a lot better than expected. I had decided if he was rude I would just tell him I was done, but instead he tried to get me to stay!!! He was as kind as he was the day he tried to hire me! Ohh well he asked me to stick around til friday and I am gonna give him that courtesy. I will be a lot happier when I get back to my old employer... Should have never left grass was not greener!
My question is......Who have you found that is actually hiring?????:)

chancey021
06-16-2009, 10:04 AM
Believe it or not I am in the automotive business and have had 3 job offers in the past 60 days but I was holding out to go back to the Shoop organization. I worked happily at Frank shoop in georgetown for over six years and left to work at current employer because I was seeing dollars signs ans found out real quick money is not happiness... I will start at cardinal chevrolet in hazard ky... Back at a frank shoop store

ptbrauch
06-16-2009, 10:40 AM
I was under the impression that the common practice today is that former employers cannot divulge any details about you employment history. Seems like all they can tell someone that inquires about you is that you did work there for whatever time period?

That's just a company policy. There's no law against it. But most companies take that stance so they don't open themselves up to a lawsuit (i.e. Company: "he got fired for stealing". Him: "I didn't do that". Him: "I'll sue you for defamation.". And now the company has to prove it in court.)

killinmammals
06-16-2009, 02:50 PM
Tough call. If you think there's ANY chance you might need that job in the future, I'd leave a notice. If not, walk in there and tell your boss to #&&*((^$# ^%*#***$!!!!!

I did that years ago. I gotta tell you, it felt GREAT! There was a short time when I wished I would have given a notice, BUT now I'm glad I did it the way I did. I won't be disrespected or be the target of mind games by ANY employer. No one should. If you do leave a notice, I'd still tell them how you feel.
I did the same thing, When they asked why I was quiting and throwing a great opportunity away(which they were full of #$*#) I told the boss because he was an a-hole and I have no respect for a person who can't respect those that work hard for him...talk about feeling great. That hasn't come back to bite me yet either, and I'm not to worried about it either