ESPN reporting Alabama has to forfiet wins

[Kentuck]

Games are from 2005 to 2007. Something about athlete's getting free books for other students.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4250596

[beards-n-bone]

These rules are crazy and over the top IMO. Why should an entire program be punished for the actions of one rogue player? There has to be some logic put into play here!! A coach cant keep up with everything each individual player does. This is nuts and I am sure it goes on all the time on every college campus in one form or another. If the coach or university tried to cover it up then maybe a penalty should be handed down. WOW!

[slickhead slayer]

Silly. One player ( who is an 18 year old college kid) screws up, the University does the right thing and reports it, and they get penalized.
IMHO Alabama and UK are the last schools in the US to cheat, their penalties will be too steep since its they have a past. They both are going to report any little thing they see.

[Louhunter]

Silly. One player ( who is an 18 year old college kid) screws up, the University does the right thing and reports it, and they get penalized.
IMHO Alabama and UK are the last schools in the US to cheat, their penalties will be too steep since its they have a past. They both are going to report any little thing they see.

WHAT!!! UofK just self reported itself last week over a booster giving free meals to current Basketball/Football players. Every player in NCAA knows that is a violation..

[RocketRider]

Doesn't seem fair, all colleges do a little here & there & from what I've seen this was minor. 'Bama has been under the microscope for years. Just let 'em play!



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[slickhead slayer]

WHAT!!! UofK just self reported itself last week over a booster giving free meals to current Basketball/Football players. Every player in NCAA knows that is a violation..

Can you read? I am talking about the institutions themselves, not the student athlete. Its tough to control what 18 year old college kids do. And the word "self reporting" is the opposite of cheating. If they were cheating, they wouldn't have self reported. Same with Bama.

[Louhunter]

Can you read? I am talking about the institutions themselves, not the student athlete. Its tough to control what 18 year old college kids do. And the word "self reporting" is the opposite of cheating. If they were cheating, they wouldn't have self reported. Same with Bama.

I can read and so should a kid on College scholarship. They represent the University and are receiving a free education. Just as they know the rules of the game, they know the NCAA rules the govern all college athletics.

When UofK when on probation with the Chris Mills and the Emory enveolpe, that was a booster and the college kid. That along with Eric Manual having someone take his SAT were all the "kids", but they represent the university.

The "Self Reporting" is just a way that the University can try and limit the amount of punishment.

[slickhead slayer]

I can read and so should a kid on College scholarship. They represent the University and are receiving a free education. Just as they know the rules of the game, they know the NCAA rules the govern all college athletics.

When UofK when on probation with the Chris Mills and the Emory enveolpe, that was a booster and the college kid. That along with Eric Manual having someone take his SAT were all the "kids", but they represent the university.

The "Self Reporting" is just a way that the University can try and limit the amount of punishment.

Chris Mills situation was not a booster and college kid. The money was sent from assistant coach Dwayne Casey. Eric Manuel did NOT represent UK when he took the SAT. He was nothing but a recruit. UK would have gotten in zero trouble on that, except for the fact that they( UK) arranged for someone to take the test for him. Both situations were done by people who were part of the institution.
Alabama should not go on probation because a player took text books, just like UL shouldn't go on probation when Rod Council held up a convenient store with an Uzi. Players commiting infractions is different from coaches and universities commiting infractions.

[Rob]

Fox Sports News is reporting that 201 Alabama student/athletes are involved. While I am no big fan of the NCAA, that is very different than just one kid screwing up.