Mossberg 835 Ulti-Mag Tactical Turkey

[headoftheholler]

Finally broke down and bought a dedicated turkey gun today.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=19
The pistol grip gives so much better feel v/s a standard stock. I'm sure the ATI adjustible stock will hurt with 3.5" mag loads, and I love the sights. Two questions to anyone familar with these guns. 1. The barrel is overbored, what exactly does this mean/benefit? and 2. Where this is not your typical 835, will an 835 slug barrel still fit?

[turk2di]

What was the price if ya don't mind me asking?

[headoftheholler]

What was the price if ya don't mind me asking?

$499 New in box.

[quacksnracks]

im no expert but heres what i know about backboring the nominal interior diameter of a 12 gauge shotgun barrel is.729", but your barrel could measure anything from .720" to .800" and stillhandle a 12 gauge shell. Anything bigger than .729" is technically overbore or backbored. some guns are backbored in anattempt to reduce recoil. It did not work and should not have come as a surprise. If you look at the formula for free recoil, bore size is not one of the components. From a purely subjective (not mathematical) point of view, it also failed to lower the recoil sensation the way that elongating the cones did.Don't know why.

In theory, backboring decreases friction and provides a larger wad base for the powder gases to push upon. Both of these should increase velocity and they may to a slight extent. normal shell to shell factory variation is 30 fps, so the most extreme backboring does not really affect velocity for all practical purposes.

Very often when people have guns backbored, they also run the cones out and mayal so have the gun ported. When everything is done at once it is impossible totell if one particular change had a measurable effect. Subjective recoil reduction caused by elongated cones is often attributed to backboring or porting.

Instead of decreasing recoil, aftermarket backboring actually increases it because the weight of the gun is reduced by the amount of metal removed and ejecta velocity may be increased slightly. Gun weight and ejecta velocity are important components of the recoil formula.

There is a big difference between "aftermarket" backboring and "factory" overbored new guns. The factory overbored barrels are actually a little heavier because wall thickness is maintained while barrel diameter is increased. There is more metal. If you want an example of road hugging weight brought on by factory overboring, try to swing a new Browning 425 Ultra with 32" barrels.

Large bores may help slightly when using extremely heavy hunting loads, but there is no proven meaningful change in velocity or recoil with standard target loads. Sorry folks, factory "backboring" is just another marketing ploy to go along with barrel porting.

Does backboring have any benefit at all? yours guess is as good as mine.

[stratos907]

yea...what he said!!

[headoftheholler]

Also, besides handguns, I've never realled owned a home protection long gun either and I think this one fits the bill perfectly.

[Farm Hunter]

I have had one for about 3 years now and love it. I'm going to try it this spring with a holographic sight on top.

[Quickdraw Limpsalot]

1. The barrel is overbored, what exactly does this mean/benefit? and 2. Where this is not your typical 835, will an 835 slug barrel still fit?

1) The overbored barrel is supposed to give you better patterns with the heavy turkey loads - Jury's still out. My 835 patterned well enough for me. You shouldn't shoot slugs through that overbored barrel though.

2) It's still an 835, other 835 barrels should fit it just fine.

[WKYHNTR]

Yes I also have one, its a regular 835 with a different stock and forearm. OH and one more thing, have you a couple tylenol ready if you shoot it a few times with 3 1/2's, it will stomp ya.

[kyslim]

I have an older 835 which I purchased new in the mid 90's and I still love it. If the new are anything like the older ones then yeah it will still stomp you but you will never notice it when that big tom is flopping around on the ground.The only time I ever noticed the recoil is when I was shooting at paper. I also put a set of tru glo adjustable rifle sights on mine and a mad max choke tube and it has been a turkey killin machine. I would like to get a slug barrel but I am haveing trouble finding one in the mossberg woodland camo.

[headoftheholler]

I have had one for about 3 years now and love it. I'm going to try it this spring with a holographic sight on top.

I got to thinkin' today about the ammo holder that's built into the stock, say I use Nitros (red shell) and I put 3 or 4 of them in the holders, I'm going to have a big red splotch right next to my face in the turkey woods. I guess I'm either going to use some black or green shells or not use the ammo holder at all.

[quacksnracks]

ahhh ..... when u get that big ole red head in those sights it wont matter at all....

[headoftheholler]

ahhh ..... when u get that big ole red head in those sights it wont matter at all....

Not me I'm worried about, worried about someone else hearing my yelping and seeing the red ammo strapped to my gun.

[kywaterfowler]

my buddy just got one of these and there pretty nice. killed everything with it except a turkey! haha

[maxcam]

Back boring is a process which is used to enlarge the bore diameter and correct non-concentricity of a shotgun barrel. This process reduces wall friction between the shot load and barrel thereby reducing recoil and shortening the shot string. Back boring also allows the shot load to be controlled by the choke tube rather than the barrel's bore constriction. This allows the shooter flexibility to switch choke constrictions as needed with confidence that the result will reflect that choice. Back boring will greatly reduce pellet deformation by allowing a more smooth path for the shot load through the shotgun's bore, and this will provide a more dense and even pattern.

I found this information on angleport.com.......I don't know if its true....What I do know is that my Extrema has an over sized bore and coupled with the Nitro combo its very lethal at extreme ranges on turkeys.........

[KYLimbHanger]

FYI: watch those "Tactical" stocks on shotguns. Be careful with the adjustments. I've seen pics and heard of the stock collapsing upon firing and sending the gun right to your eye. And if you have a scope on it... ouch!:eek:

Mossy's are nice by the way. Should be a real shooter.

[headoftheholler]

FYI: watch those "Tactical" stocks on shotguns. Be careful with the adjustments. I've seen pics and heard of the stock collapsing upon firing and sending the gun right to your eye. And if you have a scope on it... ouch!:eek:

Mossy's are nice by the way. Should be a real shooter.

From what I've read prior to purchasing, the stocks on the earlier models (2007) sometimes disengaged under heavy recoil, and the stock would collapse to the fully drawn in position. It is an ATI stock (the one I purchased) which isn't the most expensive but I like it.
I don't plan on putting a scope on it as the adjustable fiber optic sights are so much brighter and nicer than the plain brass bead I'm used to.