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lawrenceburger
02-27-2009, 06:48 PM
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but I just saw that Ky legislature now has a 10th Amendment resolution asserting sovereignty over the Federal Govt.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/09RS/HC168.htm

30 other states have issued similar resolutions, so it's awesome that Ky legislators are taking a stand too. Make sure you call the Frankfort Legislature hotline at 1-800-372-7181 and leave a message for your rep and/or senator.

Here's the text...

A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION claiming sovereignty over powers not granted to the federal government by the United States Constitution; serving notice to the federal government to cease mandates beyond its authority; and stating Kentucky's position that federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of loss of federal funding should be prohibited or repealed.

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States provides that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, not prohibited to it by the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and

WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the state; and

WHEREAS, today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and

WHEREAS, many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, Article IV, Section 4 of the United States Constitution states that "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..." and the Ninth Amendment of the United States Constitution states that "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."; and

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 505 U.S. 144 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States;

NOW, THEREFORE,
Be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, the Senate concurring therein:
Section 1. The Commonwealth of Kentucky hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
Section 2. This Resolution serves as notice and demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.
Section 3. It is the position of the Commonwealth of Kentucky that all compulsory federal legislation that directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions, or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.
Section 4. The Clerk of the House of Representatives shall distribute a copy of this Resolution to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and President of the Senate of each state's legislature of the United States of America, and to each member of Kentucky's congressional delegation.

mrdux
02-27-2009, 08:42 PM
I'm glad to see this movement in Frankfort.

Too bad we have a gov who is willing to crawl a mile thru broken glass to kiss the backside of somebody who will promise him a stimulus check.

westkybanded
02-27-2009, 09:02 PM
I'm glad someone finally posted this. I haven't been able to.

mrdux
02-27-2009, 10:12 PM
I couldn't find the names of the sponsors of this bill and their affiliations. Mike Church had been pushing this big time on his show.

beards-n-bone
02-27-2009, 11:30 PM
Awsome!!!! I feel that alot of states in the south and midwest and even out west ( excluding the coast of course) will pursue similar things to protect the rights of the citizens of their particular state. It is the only way to at least slow the spread of the Obama's administrations socialist agenda.

lawrenceburger
02-28-2009, 12:03 AM
According to this blog (http://kentucky-preppers-network.blogspot.com/), this resolution was sponsored by John Will Stacy, the Majority (D) whip, and also the Minority (R) whip, David Floyd, was asked to introduce this legislation as well. Floyd's has a different #, but they're the same text. These may be combined, or we may get 2 different shots at this.

Either way, I think it's a good sign that this has bipartisan support.

For those who haven't followed this movement, here's a good place to see what it's all about: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/

Ky'sFinest
02-28-2009, 02:19 AM
this is the greatness of america shining in a dark hour. proud to be a kentuckian!!

sthrnkyhunter
02-28-2009, 08:53 PM
We should all get behind this!!!!!!!!!

Mepperson
03-01-2009, 07:44 AM
Someone please put this in language that common folks can understand...What does it mean?

Art
03-01-2009, 07:56 AM
Someone please put this in language that common folks can understand...What does it mean?

I agree!:D I THINK it means our state govt. is scared of the Obama administration and where they want to take this country. I guess this is Frankfort's way of drawing a line in the sand.:confused:

westkybanded
03-01-2009, 08:59 AM
Basically it's saying that the commonwealth will not allow the federal govt. to violate the constitution within the borders of the state, and we also get to make our own rules on things not specifically spelled out in the constitution.

Mepperson
03-01-2009, 05:36 PM
Basically it's saying that the commonwealth will not allow the federal govt. to violate the constitution within the borders of the state, and we also get to make our own rules on things not specifically spelled out in the constitution.

Sounds like a good plan.....

ditchdigger
03-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Obama scares me!:eek:

BGTURKEYHUNTER
03-02-2009, 04:15 AM
Obama scares me!:eek:

I think you have reason to be scared of what Obama is going to try to do!

CanisMajor
03-02-2009, 05:28 AM
Now this bill is what I call REAL hope!

Manzanita
03-02-2009, 05:57 AM
Yay! This thread has made my whole day. I had read about a bunch of states doing this about two weeks or so ago and noted that Kentucky, alas, wasn't on the list. I'm very happy to see this. Even if it doesn't go anywhere, it makes me proud to be a native son of this Commonwealth.

buckfever
03-03-2009, 09:46 AM
I believe this is a complete and utter waste of time. :(

The powers reserved to the states are already enumerated in the United States Constitution, and already include basically everything not specifically granted to the federal gov't. Nothing in our federal Constitution allows the fed gov't to exercise powers in areas reserved for the states.

Although I strongly support states' rights, this bill has no teeth. If the feds make a law that is deemed constitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court, you can have a 1000 state constitution sovereignty amendments, but the state still won't be able to adopt laws that conflict with the federal law. Whether the fed gov't goes too far with legislation will NEVER be impacted by this bill. That issue will be decided in the federal courts.

Our state politicians have sucked, and they've sucked for CENTURIES. Kentucky ranks near the bottom in nearly everything. It rankles me that our state legislators are wasting time chest-thumping with idiotic bills that accomplish nothing instead of working to solve the state's problems. IMO, the only purpose behind this bill is to help the legislators get re-elected. These legislators know that their constituents (a) didn't vote for Obama; and (b) don't like the way he's spending money so freely. They see this bill as a way to say, "Hey, we don't agree with Obama is doing" in the hope that the voters will remember it next election cycle. Unfortunately for Kentucky, it solves nothing, and it says nothing.

IMO, an entirely unnecessary and wasteful piece of time and legislation.

Old Oak
03-05-2009, 10:42 AM
What do you all think of this?

Declare state sovereignty over powers not given to the the federal government by the U. S. Constitution; demand the federal government to cease mandates beyond constitutionlly delegated powers; prohibit federal legialtion requiring state passage of laws under threat of penalties or sanctions; direct the Clerk to distribute copies of the Resolution.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/09RS/HC168.htm

lawrenceburger
03-05-2009, 03:41 PM
Buckfever, I don't know... I think it's a good start. Except for revolution, everything involving government happens VERY slowly, and if we're ever going to get the Federal Gov to be agents of the states instead of vice-versa, then it's going to happen in baby steps, and a reasonable Step 1 is to say "we're mad as hell and we ain't gonna take it anymore!"

I don't know what Step 2 will be. But I find it encouraging that 30+ states (3/5ths) have introduced resolutions like this. That's pretty impressive when you consider that's the same # it takes to amend the Constitution. I think it sends a pretty strong message.

CanisMajor
03-05-2009, 08:48 PM
I love Kentucky, that's what I think. Here is a good article about lil ol New Hampshire. If I wasn't living here, I would be living in New Hampshire.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87987

headoftheholler
03-05-2009, 09:25 PM
All I gotta say is : If at first you don't Seceed, try, try again.
I would be all for it.

buckfever
03-06-2009, 10:51 AM
Buckfever, I don't know... I think it's a good start. Except for revolution, everything involving government happens VERY slowly, and if we're ever going to get the Federal Gov to be agents of the states instead of vice-versa, then it's going to happen in baby steps, and a reasonable Step 1 is to say "we're mad as hell and we ain't gonna take it anymore!"

I don't know what Step 2 will be. But I find it encouraging that 30+ states (3/5ths) have introduced resolutions like this. That's pretty impressive when you consider that's the same # it takes to amend the Constitution. I think it sends a pretty strong message.

Don't get me wrong, I understand exactly where you're coming from, but I just don't see this kind of legislation as doing much of anything, other than giving the sponsoring legislators a "feel good" moment with their voting constituents for re-election purposes.

I mean, 30+ states have this kind of legislation, but that certainly hasn't slowed down the feds. Congress just passed the biggest power-grab, big-spending, bail-out budget in history.

Maybe I'm just a cynic. :D

ben hunting
03-06-2009, 03:02 PM
i talked with our state rep this week and he said it was political postering.
it sends a message to washington that we are watching and will not play along with anything we don't like. resolutions don't hold rule of law.

but hey at least we are sending a message.