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KYBOY
01-18-2009, 04:41 PM
This week? Well I guess our opinions dont count because they aint..

JP
01-18-2009, 04:48 PM
give it 24 hours...they will be.

AteUp
01-18-2009, 04:49 PM
Nothing against you, UK or anybody else, but who cares about rankings? Rankings don't mean crap in basketball until the tournament. Even then they're really not as important as football.

Feedman
01-18-2009, 05:50 PM
There was only one 12-4 team ranked last week and that was Purdue. UK might come in ranked somewhere 22 to 25. Who knows?? If they keep winning games they will get ranked. I would not worry about it right now.

KYBOY
01-18-2009, 08:11 PM
Im not really worred about it at all, just trying to get some conversation going :D

Art
01-18-2009, 08:19 PM
I think KY deserves to be in the top 25, but I'm not sure they have received a single vote this season. They should this week. Maybe then we'll stop being bombarded by the articles pointing out how MN is ranked and UK isn't.:rolleyes:

retiredbowhunter
01-18-2009, 08:38 PM
Nothing against you, UK or anybody else, but who cares about rankings? Rankings don't mean crap in basketball until the tournament.

best description of how I see it also.....

Scott7m
01-18-2009, 09:34 PM
it doesn't matter, are they a top 25 team, yea probably so.

ril7572
01-18-2009, 09:39 PM
give it 24 hours...they will be.

I agree. tomorrows new topic "Kentucky in the top 25"

JP
01-18-2009, 10:14 PM
I think KY deserves to be in the top 25, but I'm not sure they have received a single vote this season. They should this week. Maybe then we'll stop being bombarded by the articles pointing out how MN is ranked and UK isn't.:rolleyes:

hmmm...didn't MN beat Louisville or something?? :eek:

velvet
01-18-2009, 10:37 PM
Nothing against you, UK or anybody else, but who cares about rankings? Rankings don't mean crap in basketball until the tournament. Even then they're really not as important as football.

Why respond if you dont even answer the question......oh I forgot who it was.....that explains it...:rolleyes::D

Triton
01-18-2009, 10:39 PM
hmmm...didn't MN beat Louisville or something?? :eek:

Ouch, they'll be tope 25, if not now then after the next win. But like they say who cares done mean nothin till tourny time.

AteUp
01-18-2009, 11:38 PM
Why respond if you dont even answer the question......oh I forgot who it was.....that explains it...:rolleyes::D

Once again, the irony of your post is awesome. Thanks.

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 06:57 PM
Rankings came out they still aren't ranked. By the way UL moved up to 9:D

KYBOY
01-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Nope they aint..I think they came in around 28th or so??

mwezell
01-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Rankings came out they still aren't ranked. By the way UL moved up to 9:D

If UL beats Syracuse 1/25, they deserve to be ranked in the top 10. Right now they are overrated and the Cats are a bit underrated. I honestly feel like both teams are playing like top 20 teams but neither has earned a top 10 yet. UL gets the edge and is playing good ball. They should be about 12th or 13th and UK should be 18-20. This is based on how they are performing, not based on the level of talent that either team has. If that were the case, I think we would all agree that UL has not performed up to their potential. The preseaon polls tell you that UL was expected to be very good with the amount of talent they have. All that matters is how they finish and UK is getting markedly better with every game. UK won't be down long so enjoy it while it lasts little brother.:)---Mike

Art
01-19-2009, 07:38 PM
Rankings came out they still aren't ranked. By the way UL moved up to 9:D

That should make you feel even worse about barely beating an unranked team at home.:D

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 07:46 PM
That should make you feel even worse about barely beating an unranked team at home.:D
No it always feels good to beat Uk :) We played more ranked teams last week than they will play all season:D

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 07:48 PM
If UL beats Syracuse 1/25, they deserve to be ranked in the top 10. Right now they are overrated and the Cats are a bit underrated. I honestly feel like both teams are playing like top 20 teams but neither has earned a top 10 yet. UL gets the edge and is playing good ball. They should be about 12th or 13th and UK should be 18-20. This is based on how they are performing, not based on the level of talent that either team has. If that were the case, I think we would all agree that UL has not performed up to their potential. The preseaon polls tell you that UL was expected to be very good with the amount of talent they have. All that matters is how they finish and UK is getting markedly better with every game. UK won't be down long so enjoy it while it lasts little brother.:)---Mike

LOL! Wow. Are you kin to MSGMills? Overrated after beating 3 top 20 teams in 8 days including number 1? Who has uk beat? No one. That's why they aren't ranked. It's going to be hard to get a marqee win in the SEC, there isn't anyone worth beating.

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 07:58 PM
shewww.... you u of l guys are nuts........ you can't ever talk about your team without saying something about uk somewhere down the line.

and here is something else....... u of l could win any game going and most folks wouldnt care or even hear about it.

when UK plays, even the u of l fans get on here and talk about what they thought about the game. lol.. i mean, obviously uk draws a lil more attention but come on lol

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 08:02 PM
shewww.... you u of l guys are nuts........ you can't ever talk about your team without saying something about uk somewhere down the line.

and here is something else....... u of l could win any game going and most folks wouldnt care or even hear about it.

when UK plays, even the u of l fans get on here and talk about what they thought about the game. lol.. i mean, obviously uk draws a lil more attention but come on lol
I see you are from Carter City are you on that oxy contin too?:)Talk to me when uk beats someone worth beating:D

Art
01-19-2009, 08:03 PM
No it always feels good to beat Uk :) We played more ranked teams last week than they will play all season:D

I bet it feels good to beat UK, since we do OWN the series.:D

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 08:06 PM
living in the past again speaking of own we own the 9 spot:D

mwezell
01-19-2009, 08:10 PM
LOL! Wow. Are you kin to MSGMills? Overrated after beating 3 top 20 teams in 8 days including number 1? Who has uk beat? No one. That's why they aren't ranked. It's going to be hard to get a marqee win in the SEC, there isn't anyone worth beating.

None of the three currently have a winning record against ranked teams.:rolleyes:

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 08:17 PM
shewww.... you u of l guys are nuts........ you can't ever talk about your team without saying something about uk somewhere down the line.

and here is something else....... u of l could win any game going and most folks wouldnt care or even hear about it.

when UK plays, even the u of l fans get on here and talk about what they thought about the game. lol.. i mean, obviously uk draws a lil more attention but come on lol

We can't talk about our team without bringing up UK? How ironic. The word louisville wasn't even uttered in this thread until this little gem....

hmmm...didn't MN beat Louisville or something?? :eek:

UK fans don't talk about anyone else for a couple reasons. A) They are too arrogant to EVER think that someone else has a better team. (I.E. They all say that UL/UK are even now....even though UL won a game that wasn't as close as the final score suggested and has beaten 3 top 20 teams in the last week). B)UK is a big name program and gains almost all of the "casual fans" in the state. Ya know the fans that don't know or care anything about basketball but BY GOD they won them there 7 national championships and Billy CLYDE will lead 'em back to prominence. Not to say that UL doesn't have those fans too, as does every school but they are going to be much heavier in big name teams like UK, UNC, Duke, etc.

I do watch UK play when I get the chance. I'm not going to miss a date or something for it but I do make an effort to watch them. But, thats because I'm a fan of college basketball. I like to watch the game. No matter if Louisville is playing or Kentucky or whoever. I'm watching Pitt VS Syracuse right now. Love of the game. I'm not a casual fan.

Art
01-19-2009, 08:25 PM
We can't talk about our team without bringing up UK? How ironic. The word louisville wasn't even uttered in this thread until this little gem....



UK fans don't talk about anyone else for a couple reasons. A) They are too arrogant to EVER think that someone else has a better team. (I.E. They all say that UL/UK are even now....even though UL won a game that wasn't as close as the final score suggested and has beaten 3 top 20 teams in the last week). B)UK is a big name program and gains almost all of the "casual fans" in the state. Ya know the fans that don't know or care anything about basketball but BY GOD they won them there 7 national championships and Billy CLYDE will lead 'em back to prominence. Not to say that UL doesn't have those fans too, as does every school but they are going to be much heavier in big name teams like UK, UNC, Duke, etc.

I do watch UK play when I get the chance. I'm not going to miss a date or something for it but I do make an effort to watch them. But, thats because I'm a fan of college basketball. I like to watch the game. No matter if Louisville is playing or Kentucky or whoever. I'm watching Pitt VS Syracuse right now. Love of the game. I'm not a casual fan.


I don't understand this crap about, "the game wasn't as close as the final score". The final score is the ultimate indication of how close a game is. You are trying to imply that UL beat the crap out of UK, but the score doesn't show that. If that was the case the score WOULD show that and they wouldn't have needed a last second shot to win. And you are claiming that UK fans are arrogant. Please...

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 08:36 PM
That last second shot counted the sme as the first second of the game shot. GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

Art
01-19-2009, 08:44 PM
That last second shot counted the sme as the first second of the game shot. GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

Not according to KY79. It was meaningless because the game had already been decided prior to the final few minutes of the game, a game where the score gave a false illusion.

I can picture you and KY79 in some Louisville dive joint wearing hula skirts and eating kielbasa. The conversation probably goes something like this...

"Ok, PBR, God vs. the cards without their starting 5, who wins?" Pbr says, " Da Cards!" Then KY79 has a heart attack.:D

teacher
01-19-2009, 08:49 PM
We can't talk about our team without bringing up UK? How ironic. The word louisville wasn't even uttered in this thread until this little gem....



UK fans don't talk about anyone else for a couple reasons. A) They are too arrogant to EVER think that someone else has a better team. (I.E. They all say that UL/UK are even now....even though UL won a game that wasn't as close as the final score suggested and has beaten 3 top 20 teams in the last week). B)UK is a big name program and gains almost all of the "casual fans" in the state. Ya know the fans that don't know or care anything about basketball but BY GOD they won them there 7 national championships and Billy CLYDE will lead 'em back to prominence. Not to say that UL doesn't have those fans too, as does every school but they are going to be much heavier in big name teams like UK, UNC, Duke, etc.

I do watch UK play when I get the chance. I'm not going to miss a date or something for it but I do make an effort to watch them. But, thats because I'm a fan of college basketball. I like to watch the game. No matter if Louisville is playing or Kentucky or whoever. I'm watching Pitt VS Syracuse right now. Love of the game. I'm not a casual fan.

I believe this is what Scott was talking about from the "Go Cards" thread..

yea Tim but you know them blue bloods will be on hear in a minute telling us how overrated Pitt was anyway. I don't care what they say GOOD JOB CARDS
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pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 08:53 PM
by the way I'm not wearing anything under my Hula:DAlso lets leave God out of this, I know you cat fans have been doing alot of praying but leave that at home:cool:

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 08:54 PM
I don't understand this crap about, "the game wasn't as close as the final score". The final score is the ultimate indication of how close a game is. You are trying to imply that UL beat the crap out of UK, but the score doesn't show that. If that was the case the score WOULD show that and they wouldn't have needed a last second shot to win. And you are claiming that UK fans are arrogant. Please...

UK fans like to say it was one on a last second shot. That's deceiving. That suggests that this was a neck and neck battle and they Louisville luckily snuck in a last second shot to steal the game. Anyone who watched that game knows different. Louisville controlled the game for the vast majority of the game. UK scored 7 points in the final 33 seconds and THEY almost stole the game. Louisville almost gave the game away.

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 08:56 PM
I said that to Tim cause I had already heard it from my Father in Law he is a typical uk fan

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 08:57 PM
I can picture you and KY79 in some Louisville dive joint wearing hula skirts and eating kielbasa. The conversation probably goes something like this...

"Ok, PBR, God vs. the cards without their starting 5, who wins?" Pbr says, " Da Cards!" Then KY79 has a heart attack.:D

I literally LOL'ed.

PS. They wouldn't stand a chance without their starting 5. But, if Twill and Clark were on and Samuels played good in the paint and we had Knowles and Jennings coming off the bench to play some hard-nosed D, it'd be damn near sacrilegious.

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 08:58 PM
Pitt just put away Syracuse

teacher
01-19-2009, 09:01 PM
I said that to Tim cause I had already heard it from my Father in Law he is a typical uk fan
What's his username, is he a member on here? Doesn't matter, Scott was right.. UL fans can't enjoy the biggest win of the season without bringing up UK, and you proved that.. BTW, congrats on the win and the top 10 ranking..

Art
01-19-2009, 09:03 PM
UK fans like to say it was one on a last second shot. That's deceiving. That suggests that this was a neck and neck battle and they Louisville luckily snuck in a last second shot to steal the game. Anyone who watched that game knows different. Louisville controlled the game for the vast majority of the game. UK scored 7 points in the final 33 seconds and THEY almost stole the game. Louisville almost gave the game away.

Wow, arrogance in it's purest form. Let me explain how sports work. At the end of the game, there is what we rational people call a FINAL SCORE. Whoever has the most points at the end of regulation wins, period. Games are not "stolen" or "given away". Most people decide who the victor is based on the FINAL SCORE, not at various points throughout the game. Maybe you have basketball confused with tennis, where they play sets?

Had Louisville controlled that game, the score would have not been tied with 2.5 seconds to go. I don't care if UL was winning by 100 at the half. They squeaked that one out on their home court.

It really is too bad that the selection committee will put us in the Duke bracket as opposed to the UL bracket. I guess I can't blame them, because they like to see the best programs pitted against each other, for ratings and such.:D

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 09:03 PM
What's his username, is he a member on here? Doesn't matter, Scott was right.. UL fans can't enjoy the biggest win of the season without bringing up UK, and you proved that.. BTW, congrats on the win and the top 10 ranking..
No!!! Like I said I was quoting a uk fan, doesn't matter we beat uk and I will enjoy that for at least a year!!!:D

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 09:06 PM
Hey Art how many times uk played on national tv this year? ratings don't make me laugh!!

Art
01-19-2009, 09:07 PM
Hey Art how many times uk played on national tv this year? ratings don't make me laugh!!

That's not something a UK fan keeps track of. Only a lessor program would be concerned of how many times they get on TV. BTW, when does the ESPN deal go into effect with the SEC? Is it next year?

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 09:10 PM
That's not something a UK fan keeps track of. Only a lessor program would be concerned of how many times they get on TV. BTW, when does the ESPN deal go into effect with the SEC? Is it next year?
You were the one who brought up pairings for tv ratings. Who wants to watch the SEC? They had better improve before next season or talk about poor ratings:p

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 09:14 PM
At the end of the game, there is what we rational people call a FINAL SCORE. Whoever has the most points at the end of regulation wins, period.

It really is too bad that the selection committee will put us in the Duke bracket as opposed to the UL bracket. I guess I can't blame them, because they like to see the best programs pitted against each other, for ratings and such.:D

In reference to your first paragraph...I guess we had the most final points. Is that good? Thats good right?

I would love for UK to be put in UL's bracket....if UK makes the tournament? I think they will, but with 64 RPI and 115 SOS they still have plenty of work to do.

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 09:19 PM
None of the three currently have a winning record against ranked teams.:rolleyes:

UK doesn't either. They are 0-2. But, hey on the upside their second best win is against the #10 team......in the BIG EAST.

By the way, Pitt does now. 2-1. The others have wins against top 25 too. I know UK doesn't know much about playing top 25 teams...

pbrdrnkr
01-19-2009, 09:20 PM
My Mom said I have to go to bed:D GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

teacher
01-19-2009, 09:25 PM
No!!! Like I said I was quoting a uk fan, doesn't matter we beat uk and I will enjoy that for at least a year!!!:D
So you had to bring up UK on a public hunting forum minutes after knocking off the no. 1 ranked team? Again, it proves Scott right.. Since we are talking about that comment made about Pitt. being over rated, who did they beat again to get there?

teacher
01-19-2009, 09:27 PM
UK doesn't either. They are 0-2. But, hey on the upside their second best win is against the #10 team......in the BIG EAST.

By the way, Pitt does now. 2-1. The others have wins against top 25 too. I know UK doesn't know much about playing top 25 teams...
UK did beat a ranked team, and it is because of this that team is no longer ranked..

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 09:30 PM
well, after this thread, it's rather quite obvious why most people can't stand u of l or their fans hahha.....

Art
01-19-2009, 09:31 PM
UK doesn't either. They are 0-2. But, hey on the upside their second best win is against the #10 team......in the BIG EAST.

By the way, Pitt does now. 2-1. The others have wins against top 25 too. I know UK doesn't know much about playing top 25 teams...

Still doesn't change the fact that UL got beat by Tubby and WKU. :D

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 10:22 PM
UK did beat a ranked team, and it is because of this that team is no longer ranked..

I'm sorry I thought we were talking about currently ranked teams. I didn't know we were keeping track of every team that has been ranked this year in hopes that UK caught them after losing 3 or 4 games in a row and picked up a win against a "top 25" team.

well, after this thread, it's rather quite obvious why most people can't stand u of l or their fans hahha.....

...and why most people hate UK and their fans. UK is a much more hated program nationally than U of L, I would almost guarantee. Who could like any fan that brings up how many national championships they have won in ANY sports discussion.

In the spirit of Arts re-enactment...

Art and Scott are sitting in a dive in Lexington and Art asks Scott if he heard that Tiger Woods just won the masters. Scott only reply is knocking down another shot preceeding "NO, BUT DID YOU HEAR THAT UK BASKETBALL HAS WON 7......NATIONAL......CHAMPIONSHIPS?!?!? WOOOOO!!";)

Tim T
01-19-2009, 10:26 PM
Still doesn't change the fact that UL got beat by Tubby and WKU. :D


That is all you got? Ninth ranked team in the country, you might want to also check out the RPI and strnegth of schedule. I guess that makes WKU the best in the state, oh and btw Scooter, Harvard will play VMI in the national title game based on your logic.

Of course U of L got beat by Minn. They are a well coached team, unlike some of the other teams on the schedule. Give it up Art, you make everybody look smart!:rolleyes:

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 10:26 PM
sooo lemme get this straight......... since history does not matter

no one gives a crap what u of l did last week.... woo woo we beat 3 ranked teams, well guess what.. thats history so it doesn't matter!

you all know good and well if you all had 7 titles you all would be squakin like a bunch of young cardinals waitin on your worm!

since history don't matter... well i guess it don't mean a dang thing that u of l beat kentucky.....

wait, arrogance again.... the last second shot didn't mattter lol

Tim T
01-19-2009, 10:29 PM
sooo lemme get this straight......... since history does not matter

no one gives a crap what u of l did last week.... woo woo we beat 3 ranked teams, well guess what.. thats history so it doesn't matter!

you all know good and well if you all had 7 titles you all would be squakin like a bunch of young cardinals waitin on your worm!

since history don't matter... well i guess it don't mean a dang thing that u of l beat kentucky.....

wait, arrogance again.... the last second shot didn't mattter lol

Try using the English language Scott and tell us about black cats, because you obviously are struggling with the sports talk! :eek:

ukyager
01-19-2009, 10:35 PM
It's very apparent that deer season has come and gone!!!
the trash talk is getting better by the minute. Wait until waterfowl season closes and we get some more of those boys in here, we will all need waders for the off season!:D

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 10:35 PM
Try using the English language Scott and tell us about black cats, because you obviously are struggling with the sports talk! :eek:

wow your having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something.. lol

now... back to the lil red birds.

a u of l fan says uk is much more hated......... yeah nationally of course, because uk has actually been a threat over the years. no one cares what louisville does.. when they talk about the history of the game and about the top schools, you sure as heck don't hear u of l in the mix..

But! as you say, history doesn't matter! Soooo...... what exactly do you have to brag about? if you talk about anything, it's history!

Tim T
01-19-2009, 10:43 PM
wow your having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something.. lol

now... back to the lil red birds.

a u of l fan says uk is much more hated......... yeah nationally of course, because uk has actually been a threat over the years. no one cares what louisville does.. when they talk about the history of the game and about the top schools, you sure as heck don't hear u of l in the mix..

But! as you say, history doesn't matter! Soooo...... what exactly do you have to brag about? if you talk about anything, it's history!


I am not sure what you just said, but I am pretty sure I disagree with it! The Lil redbirds (as you call them) are currently ranked ninth in the country. As far as history overall, when fans outside of the bluegrass talk about the greatest programs, U of L is usually mentioned somewhere between noumber five and number seven. Of course there are arguments over who is number one. Some experts say UCLA with their complete dominance, 11 titles and they have been to the Final Four three years in a row recently. Others say North Carolina and yet others say UK, but usually they take away points for being a racist program with a racist coach.....oh yeah, they are also the most penalized program in the history of NCAA Basketball, so that takes away a little bit. Congrats though Scott, and GO (black) CATS!:eek:

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 10:46 PM
ohhhh now we've gotta bring race into it lol....

your really diggin low... hahhaha..

you think there hasn't been racist people associated with every program in the nation?


buttttttt... for someone who didn't know what i said, you sure figured it out! you get that education at u of l? lol

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 10:47 PM
sooo lemme get this straight......... since history does not matter

no one gives a crap what u of l did last week.... woo woo we beat 3 ranked teams, well guess what.. thats history so it doesn't matter!

you all know good and well if you all had 7 titles you all would be squakin like a bunch of young cardinals waitin on your worm!

since history don't matter... well i guess it don't mean a dang thing that u of l beat kentucky.....

wait, arrogance again.... the last second shot didn't mattter lol

It's all about perspective, Scott. History matters to an extent. What happened last week matters. What happened earlier this season matters. What happened 10+ years ago definitely does not.



a u of l fan says uk is much more hated......... yeah nationally of course, because uk has actually been a threat over the years. no one cares what louisville does.. when they talk about the history of the game and about the top schools, you sure as heck don't hear u of l in the mix..


Well nationally is the only thing you can base it on? Do you think Kentucky is unbiased about UK fans?

No one cares about what UL does? Ha. UK gets no national exposure. UL is talked about in just about every game or sports talk. You never hear anything about UK...or anyone in the SEC. Quoting Buckfever's signature "That's loser talk." I sure as hell don't hear the sportscasters talking about UK's national championships.

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 10:49 PM
ohhhh now we've gotta bring race into it lol....

your really diggin low... hahhaha..

you think there hasn't been racist people associated with every program in the nation?



There most definitely is/was. But, I can't think of another program that is synonymous.

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 10:51 PM
lol... now.. no one ever mentions uk's 7 titles, nor do they ever show the all time wins rankings... nope never hahha



but in all seriousness.... where does u of l have any bragging rights over uk??? what has uofl ever accomplished that uk has not?

mrdux
01-19-2009, 11:35 PM
Sort of funny that several threads were removed last night that handed UL fans their azzes then all the UL BS was allowed to stay.

I don't see anything in the title of this thread about POS UL or their POS fans!

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 11:42 PM
Sort of funny that several threads were removed last night that handed UL fans their azzes then all the UL BS was allowed to stay.

I don't see anything in the title of this thread about POS UL or their POS fans!

LOL.. i'm pretty sure i would get banned if i said that!

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 11:46 PM
Sort of funny that several threads were removed last night that handed UL fans their azzes then all the UL BS was allowed to stay.

I don't see anything in the title of this thread about POS UL or their POS fans!

Hahahaha. I see what you guys are saying now.

So this is how we acted as little brother all those years? Hard to believe, but if you say so....LITTLE BROTHER.

Scott7m
01-19-2009, 11:50 PM
Hahahaha. I see what you guys are saying now.

So this is how we acted as little brother all those years? Hard to believe, but if you say so....LITTLE BROTHER.

just what have you guys done??? can you remind me........... WHAT HAS UL done that UK has not? C'mon! name something

KYhunter79
01-19-2009, 11:51 PM
We ARE the basketball program in the state of KY at this time. That's all I'm saying.

therron258
01-20-2009, 01:02 AM
We ARE the basketball program in the state of KY at this time. That's all I'm saying.
:) we could NEVER get that lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 01:56 AM
:) we could NEVER get that lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry guys, I'll back out for a while. The truth hurts.

therron258
01-20-2009, 02:08 AM
Sorry guys, I'll back out for a while. The truth hurts.


;)its all in fun, threads like these make this place interesting in the offseason!

maxcam
01-20-2009, 03:06 AM
We ARE the basketball program in the state of KY at this time. That's all I'm saying.

OMG.......It takes the mighty Cards a 30 foot hail mary from a skitzoprenic Puerto Rican who's coach is bipolar and cant decide if he loves him or hates him from day to day to beat an unranked UK team with a coach in his second year and only has one senior ( Jared Carter, need I say more) and you think you are "the program" in the state...........?

Dude you need to listen to the experts on basketball when they talked about storied programs that are the elite of the elite......They dont mention UofL.....In fact I read an article today on Fox Sports that says that the University of Louisville isnt even considered an elite program in the Big East......I believe they labled them atop the second tier of programs competing in that conference..........

Oh and there is a little ol program down in Bowling Green Ky that might have something to say about being "the program in the state"........Thats all Im sayin!

Ky'sFinest
01-20-2009, 03:14 AM
Oh and there is a little ol program down in Bowling Green Ky that might have something to say about being "the program in the state"........Thats all Im sayin!



TKO

i read that sucker twice it looked so good.

therron258
01-20-2009, 03:28 AM
TKO

i read that sucker twice it looked so good.


well if we want to go by who beat who, then theres a little old program down in Murray Ky that may have something to say about bowling green, 28 points or so i think.

Art
01-20-2009, 06:52 AM
We ARE the basketball program in the state of KY at this time. That's all I'm saying.

Ummm, I'm going to have to say WKU is based on the results of the UL game. ;):D

MsgMills
01-20-2009, 07:42 AM
When I lived in Indiana, I felt that UK fans were the most obnoxious ego crazy basketball fans ever. But since I've moved to KY., I can now take that phrase back...U of L fans take the cake, no one is better or does anything that U of L can't do better. I've watched College Basketball since 1969 and never knew u of L had a College team until 1980 when they won their 1st Championship.

None of the Sports shows talked about U of L as much as they did about N.C., Duke, UK, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana State, Depaul and Indiana of course. Seems that U of L was just a blip on the map when it came to Basketball until their 1st big time win in 1980 and 86 and then nothing after that. Been to a few final 4's and elite 8's since 86, but nuttin else for that matter.

But like I said, I thought UK fans were the worse, until I moved to KY and now have first hand knowledge of the truth.......U of L fans are down right the very worst of the worst......:eek:

teacher
01-20-2009, 09:12 AM
I'm sorry I thought we were talking about currently ranked teams. I didn't know we were keeping track of every team that has been ranked this year in hopes that UK caught them after losing 3 or 4 games in a row and picked up a win against a "top 25" team.



...and why most people hate UK and their fans. UK is a much more hated program nationally than U of L, I would almost guarantee. Who could like any fan that brings up how many national championships they have won in ANY sports discussion.

In the spirit of Arts re-enactment...

Art and Scott are sitting in a dive in Lexington and Art asks Scott if he heard that Tiger Woods just won the masters. Scott only reply is knocking down another shot preceeding "NO, BUT DID YOU HEAR THAT UK BASKETBALL HAS WON 7......NATIONAL......CHAMPIONSHIPS?!?!? WOOOOO!!";)


No I am talking about your quote on UK not playing a top 25 team like this one..
By the way, Pitt does now. 2-1. The others have wins against top 25 too. I know UK doesn't know much about playing top 25 teams...
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teacher
01-20-2009, 09:31 AM
I am not sure what you just said, but I am pretty sure I disagree with it! The Lil redbirds (as you call them) are currently ranked ninth in the country. As far as history overall, when fans outside of the bluegrass talk about the greatest programs, U of L is usually mentioned somewhere between noumber five and number seven. Of course there are arguments over who is number one. Some experts say UCLA with their complete dominance, 11 titles and they have been to the Final Four three years in a row recently. Others say North Carolina and yet others say UK, but usually they take away points for being a racist program with a racist coach.....oh yeah, they are also the most penalized program in the history of NCAA Basketball, so that takes away a little bit. Congrats though Scott, and GO (black) CATS!:eek:
When you say fans outside the bluegrass, are you talking about downtown Louisville? I think we're talking about basketball fans nation wide and not family members at the family reunion..

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 09:35 AM
OMG.......It takes the mighty Cards a 30 foot hail mary from a skitzoprenic Puerto Rican who's coach is bipolar and cant decide if he loves him or hates him from day to day to beat an unranked UK team with a coach in his second year and only has one senior ( Jared Carter, need I say more) and you think you are "the program" in the state...........?

Dude you need to listen to the experts on basketball when they talked about storied programs that are the elite of the elite......They dont mention UofL.....In fact I read an article today on Fox Sports that says that the University of Louisville isnt even considered an elite program in the Big East......I believe they labled them atop the second tier of programs competing in that conference..........

Oh and there is a little ol program down in Bowling Green Ky that might have something to say about being "the program in the state"........Thats all Im sayin!



I'm not basing the "best team program in the state" on head to head match-ups. That's just silly. I'm basing it on the scheme of whats going on in college basketball today. Like Therron said, if we are going to use that logic then MSU is the best team in the state because they blew WKU out of the water. And we all know that isn't true.

No I am talking about your quote on UK not playing a top 25 team like this one..
By the way, Pitt does now. 2-1. The others have wins against top 25 too. I know UK doesn't know much about playing top 25 teams...
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My statement still stands. When you talk about top 25 teams you talk about NOW, you can't talk about every team that has been ranked this year. If that were the case then there is no telling how many teams you could consider "top 25".

teacher
01-20-2009, 09:48 AM
I'm not basing the "best team program in the state" on head to head match-ups. That's just silly. I'm basing it on the scheme of whats going on in college basketball today. Like Therron said, if we are going to use that logic then MSU is the best team in the state because they blew WKU out of the water. And we all know that isn't true.



My statement still stands. When you talk about top 25 teams you talk about NOW, you can't talk about every team that has been ranked this year. If that were the case then there is no telling how many teams you could consider "top 25".
So if a month down the road, everybody in top 25 drops out except UL, can I get on here and say UL hasn't played or beaten a top 25 team?

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 10:12 AM
So if a month down the road, everybody in top 25 drops out except UL, can I get on here and say UL hasn't played or beaten a top 25 team?

Yeah, pretty much. That would mean that everyone they played was pretty over-rated and couldn't withstand the test of time.

Just like if UK busts into the top 25 next week, that will be another win over a top 25 team that we have.

mwezell
01-20-2009, 10:37 AM
Yeah, pretty much. That would mean that everyone they played was pretty over-rated and couldn't withstand the test of time.

Just like if UK busts into the top 25 next week, that will be another win over a top 25 team that we have.

Nope! Ya gotta look at what they are ranked when they played. Not what they became. Transfers may become eligible or players may be hurt or any number of things that change what the team you beat in December is in March.---Mike Ezell

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 10:42 AM
Nope! Ya gotta look at what they are ranked when they played. Not what they became. Transfers may become eligible or players may be hurt or any number of things that change what the team you beat in December is in March.---Mike Ezell

Spin it however you want to, it will be considered another top 25 win by UofL and the sports world. It would be a different story if they were ranked when we played them and finished the season unranked.

Tim T
01-20-2009, 10:46 AM
When you say fans outside the bluegrass, are you talking about downtown Louisville? I think we're talking about basketball fans nation wide and not family members at the family reunion..

Ever read Sports Illustrated? Ever watched Fox Sports or ESPN or visited their web sites?

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 11:25 AM
Ever read Sports Illustrated? Ever watched Fox Sports or ESPN or visited their web sites?

Give 'em a break, Tim. They still think there are people outside of UK fans that still even mention UK basketball.

Tim T
01-20-2009, 11:49 AM
When I lived in Indiana, I felt that UK fans were the most obnoxious ego crazy basketball fans ever. But since I've moved to KY., I can now take that phrase back...U of L fans take the cake, no one is better or does anything that U of L can't do better. I've watched College Basketball since 1969 and never knew u of L had a College team until 1980 when they won their 1st Championship.

None of the Sports shows talked about U of L as much as they did about N.C., Duke, UK, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana State, Depaul and Indiana of course. Seems that U of L was just a blip on the map when it came to Basketball until their 1st big time win in 1980 and 86 and then nothing after that. Been to a few final 4's and elite 8's since 86, but nuttin else for that matter.

But like I said, I thought UK fans were the worse, until I moved to KY and now have first hand knowledge of the truth.......U of L fans are down right the very worst of the worst......:eek:

Mills, you are so full of crap it is not funny. By 69 U of L had won the N.I.T. (when that tournament still mattered) and been to a final four. in 72 and 75 they went back to the final four. NOBODY was talking about Duke or Depaul and only in 79 did they talk about Indiana St. You are really sports challenged.

teacher
01-20-2009, 11:52 AM
Ever read Sports Illustrated? Ever watched Fox Sports or ESPN or visited their web sites?
Ever leave Louisville or read other than Louisville paper?

Tim T
01-20-2009, 11:54 AM
Ever leave Louisville or read other than Louisville paper?


Constantly, that is why I asked. Look at any list of the ten greatest basketball programs in history and tell me what you find. C'mon, you and Mills make this too easy. And by the way I don't live in Louisville.

teacher
01-20-2009, 11:54 AM
Yeah, pretty much. That would mean that everyone they played was pretty over-rated and couldn't withstand the test of time.

Just like if UK busts into the top 25 next week, that will be another win over a top 25 team that we have.

So Pitt was over-rated? Is that what I'm hearing?

teacher
01-20-2009, 12:01 PM
Constantly, that is why I asked. Look at any list of the ten greatest basketball programs in history and tell me what you find. C'mon, you and Mills make this too easy. And by the way I don't live in Louisville.
You mean like this one?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2862455&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 12:12 PM
Mills, you are so full of crap it is not funny. By 69 U of L had won the N.I.T. (when that tournament still mattered) and been to a final four. in 72 and 75 they went back to the final four. NOBODY was talking about Duke or Depaul and only in 79 did they talk about Indiana St. You are really sports challenged.


ummm thats history... you guys aren't allowed to talk about that, remember? lol

bottom line is, UL will never be the team in Ky. never... UK basketball is as big as it gets! Now it's not as big as the ego of UL fans! But, as mills stated, he's seen the light!

sooo... when wku thumps ul at a #3, ul didn't playto their potential.. so wku didn't really beat a #3 ranked team. then when ul beats uk, "unranked"! thats ok, but if a month later ky is playin better and become ranked, ul can claim they beat another ranked team!


ul will never have the prestige, heritage, or fan support that UK has. I know thats hard to swallow, but it's true!

Tim T
01-20-2009, 12:13 PM
You mean like this one?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2862455&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1


I swear if you really are a teacher and one of my kids were in your class, I would pull them out and home school, because I pray that you do not teach reading or comprehension.

Me: "Look at any list of the ten greatest basketball programs in history and tell me what you find."

You, a poll talking about the last ten years....nice job:rolleyes:

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 12:13 PM
You mean like this one?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2862455&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1


i didn't see louisville in there anywhere... hmmm

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 12:14 PM
I swaer if you really are a teacher and one of my kids were in your class, I would pull them out and home school, because I pray that you do not teach reading or comprehension.

Me: "Look at any list of the ten greatest basketball programs in history and tell me what you find."

You, a poll talking about the last ten years....nice job:rolleyes:

But you guys say history doesn't matter! but kyhunter says brief history does! soooo....... which way is it going to be?

Tim T
01-20-2009, 12:15 PM
ummm thats history... you guys aren't allowed to talk about that, remember? lol

bottom line is, UL will never be the team in Ky. never... UK basketball is as big as it gets! Now it's not as big as the ego of UL fans! But, as mills stated, he's seen the light!

sooo... when wku thumps ul at a #3, ul didn't playto their potential.. so wku didn't really beat a #3 ranked team. then when ul beats uk, "unranked"! thats ok, but if a month later ky is playin better and become ranked, ul can claim they beat another ranked team!


ul will never have the prestige, heritage, or fan support that UK has. I know thats hard to swallow, but it's true!

Nope, beating UK means very little as I posted right after the game. It is not like the Cards beat anybody. UK basketball is about as relevant as Notre dame football at this point.

Tim T
01-20-2009, 12:16 PM
i didn't see louisville in there anywhere... hmmm


Wow, you have a reading comprehension problem as well.

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 12:23 PM
So Pitt was over-rated? Is that what I'm hearing?

Yeah, obviously. They lost? Not very overrated, but a little. Just like UNC was overrated. Not really, but to an extent. Any time you lose to a team ranked lower than you, you are obviously overrated.

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 12:25 PM
bottom line is, UL will never be the team in Ky. never... UK basketball is as big as it gets! Now it's not as big as the ego of UL fans! But, as mills stated, he's seen the light!


What an ironic statement. How's that for an ego?

Does "as big as it gets" mean I haven't been to the final four this decade?

teacher
01-20-2009, 12:25 PM
Yeah, obviously. They lost? Not very overrated, but a little. Just like UNC was overrated. Not really, but to an extent. Any time you lose to a team ranked lower than you, you are obviously overrated.
Thank you, I'll try to remember that for a later date.

MsgMills
01-20-2009, 12:29 PM
Yeah, obviously. They lost? Not very overrated, but a little. Just like UNC was overrated. Not really, but to an extent. Any time you lose to a team ranked lower than you, you are obviously overrated.

Wow, I can't believe you made that statement....Overrated...yep X's 3, since you've suffered (3) loss's to unranked teams so far..........You said it not I...lol:D

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 12:32 PM
Wow, I can't believe you made that statement....Overrated...yep X's 3, since you've suffered (3) loss's to unranked teams so far..........You said it not I...lol:D

I've admitted before that we were overrated? I know you don't read well, but hooked on phonics is cheap these days. That was then, this is now. We are now playing very deserving of our ranking.

teacher
01-20-2009, 12:34 PM
I swear if you really are a teacher and one of my kids were in your class, I would pull them out and home school, because I pray that you do not teach reading or comprehension.

Me: "Look at any list of the ten greatest basketball programs in history and tell me what you find."

You, a poll talking about the last ten years....nice job:rolleyes:
I will pray as well that you don't have any kids in my class.. That would mean you living in the same county as I, don't need another circus show in such a small area.. If Louisville was such a historical program then it would have easy to find what you claimed to be true.. I clicked on the first hit that happened to be an espn poll.. The current ranking come from a poll, AP poll, ever hear of it? This being said I figured me posting a link to a poll would be okay, one from espn at that.. Yes it was only for the last 10 years, but UK history doesn't mean anything to UL, so why would I search any farther back?

Tim T
01-20-2009, 12:41 PM
I will pray as well that you don't have any kids in my class.. That would mean you living in the same county as I, don't need another circus show in such a small area.. If Louisville was such a historical program then it would have easy to find what you claimed to be true.. I clicked on the first hit that happened to be an espn poll.. The current ranking come from a poll, AP poll, ever hear of it? This being said I figured me posting a link to a poll would be okay, one from espn at that.. Yes it was only for the last 10 years, but UK history doesn't mean anything to UL, so why would I search any farther back?


You make this so easy it is laughable. I typed in one phrase on Google and came up with a ton of this list. Here is the link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=greatest+college+basketball+programs+of+all-time&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

teacher
01-20-2009, 01:57 PM
You make this so easy it is laughable. I typed in one phrase on Google and came up with a ton of this list. Here is the link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=greatest+college+basketball+programs+of+all-time&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

What's laughable to me is these links that came from your search..

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/185983/whos_number_1_the_greatest_ncaa_mens.html?cat=14

http://americasbestonline.net/Cbasketballteams.htm

Even more enjoyable one of the few that did mention Louisville was on a public forum.. That's what we all need some more looserville fans trying to claim a spot among the list of basketball's greatest.. Good search:rolleyes:,,

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/community/archive/index.php?t-80.html

maxcam
01-20-2009, 02:17 PM
Tim I took your advice and googled “ten greatest college basketball programs in history”………
Maybe I don’t know how to work google but Im having a hard time finding the Cards anywhere……

10 greatest teams all time
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/greatestcollegebasketball.html
Heres one that goes back to 84 to present ….
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3501739
Here is another entry but sorry no mention of the University of Louisville…
http://www.toptentopten.com/topten/most+prestigious+college+basketball+programs

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 02:22 PM
Tim I took your advice and googled “ten greatest college basketball programs in history”………
Maybe I don’t know how to work google but Im having a hard time finding the Cards anywhere……

10 greatest teams all time
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/greatestcollegebasketball.html
Heres one that goes back to 84 to present ….
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3501739
Here is another entry but sorry no mention of the University of Louisville…
http://www.toptentopten.com/topten/most+prestigious+college+basketball+programs

lol......... keep diggin.... i think he meant to say, top 100... he just left out a 0 hahaha

Tim T
01-20-2009, 02:25 PM
Tim I took your advice and googled “ten greatest college basketball programs in history”………
Maybe I don’t know how to work google but Im having a hard time finding the Cards anywhere……

10 greatest teams all time
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/greatestcollegebasketball.html
Heres one that goes back to 84 to present ….
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3501739
Here is another entry but sorry no mention of the University of Louisville…
http://www.toptentopten.com/topten/most+prestigious+college+basketball+programs


I expected better of you Doug, you are one of the intelligent one's. None of the three sites you posted met the question at hand, which is: Is Louisville one of the TOP TEN COLLEGE BASKETBALL PROGRAMS OF ALL TIME?"

your first link was for greatest one year teams of all time, and the other two go back to the 84-85 season. This is not that difficult, but you guys kepp either not uderstanding, or ignoring what I said.

Scott, why are you even in this conversation? You have obviously know little about the subject at hand and when someone else post a point, you automaticlally jump on that as your proof, when still yet, nobody has proven me wrong.

mwezell
01-20-2009, 02:27 PM
Spin it however you want to, it will be considered another top 25 win by UofL and the sports world. It would be a different story if they were ranked when we played them and finished the season unranked.

If you beat a team while it is ranked, then you bean a ranked team. If you beat a team and that team later is ranked...you didn't. It ain't complicated.

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 02:28 PM
I expected better of you Doug, you are one of the intelligent one's. None of the three sites you posted met the question at hand, which is: Is Louisville one of the TOP TEN COLLEGE BASKETBALL PROGRAMS OF ALL TIME?"

your first link was for greatest one year teams of all time, and the other two go back to the 84-85 season. This is not that difficult, but you guys kepp either not uderstanding, or ignoring what I said.

Scott, why are you even in this conversation? You have obviously know little about the subject at hand and when someone else post a point, you automaticlally jump on that as your proof, when still yet, nobody has proven me wrong.

and i've asked you guys 3 times now! TELL ME ONE THING! JUST ONE! that ul has done that UK has not?!

Let's hear it! We're waiting!

teacher
01-20-2009, 02:43 PM
Tim I took your advice and googled “ten greatest college basketball programs in history”………
Maybe I don’t know how to work google but Im having a hard time finding the Cards anywhere……

10 greatest teams all time
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/greatestcollegebasketball.html
Heres one that goes back to 84 to present ….
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3501739
Here is another entry but sorry no mention of the University of Louisville…
http://www.toptentopten.com/topten/most+prestigious+college+basketball+programs

Hey max, he wants you to post the Louisville basketball public forum.. That's the only link I found that talked about UL, of course it is all UL fans..

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 02:47 PM
If you beat a team while it is ranked, then you bean a ranked team. If you beat a team and that team later is ranked...you didn't. It ain't complicated.

Not true.

It's all about who is ranked at the time that you are having the discussion. It isn't complicated.

You guys keep saying that you beat a ranked team in tennessee, but they aren't ranked anymore. So did you beat a ranked team or not? If so, if you beat a team and they are later ranked (proving they were underrated) it doesn't count but if you beat a team and they are no longer ranked (proving they were overrated) it counts? Doesn't quite make sense.

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 03:00 PM
teams can get better or worse throughout a season... a team can play like a 45th ranked school in december and a top 5 team in march.......

polls don't mean much

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 03:01 PM
Hey max, he wants you to post the Louisville basketball public forum.. That's the only link I found that talked about UL, of course it is all UL fans..

You guys seriously lack reading skills.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/community/archive/index.php?t-80.html

There is the forum mention. It's not anything to do with UL, its collegehoopsnet. The thread starter is "kentubby" and selects UK as number 1, I'd be willing to bet he's a UK fan and has UL in his top 10. "Cigarboy" is next and also has UL, and he's referred to as a UCLA homer so that solves that. "MSUracer" agrees with "cigarboy", I'd be willing to bet he's a murray state fan? "Bruinbabe" has UL as well, another UCLA fan??? I'd think so. Then a bunch of arguing and then "KingofSC" has UL in his top 10 as well. EVERYONE had UL in their top 10.....from all over the country.

http://daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/
1 University of Kentucky 2 University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) 3 University of North Carolina 4 University of Kansas 5 Duke University 6 Indiana University 7 University of Louisville 8 Universtiy of Arkansas 9 Universtiy of Connecticut (UConn) 10 Universtiy of Cincinnati

http://video.yahoo.com/playlist/100317340

There's a couple more on the first page of the google search that Tim posted. READING SKILLS, USE THEM.

buckfever
01-20-2009, 03:53 PM
UK would definitely be ranked if they hadn't lost to VMI in the opener and had a better RPI (something like 44th). The 4 losses is what's dragging them down right now. It's all academic, however, b/c they'll be in next week unless they lose.

There are a few Top 25 teams that I think UK are better than: Memphis - One quality win (G'town), and they're now into their weak ConfUSA schedule; St. Mary's - Played nobody and lost to UTEP; Baylor - Two decent wins against ASU and Providence, but not too impressive; and Notre Dame - Wins against Texas and G'town, but I was at the UofL game, and I gotta say that I wasn't too impressed. They looked awfully slow to me, although they're fundamentally sound and can shoot.

teacher
01-20-2009, 04:13 PM
You guys seriously lack reading skills.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/community/archive/index.php?t-80.html

There is the forum mention. It's not anything to do with UL, its collegehoopsnet. The thread starter is "kentubby" and selects UK as number 1, I'd be willing to bet he's a UK fan and has UL in his top 10. "Cigarboy" is next and also has UL, and he's referred to as a UCLA homer so that solves that. "MSUracer" agrees with "cigarboy", I'd be willing to bet he's a murray state fan? "Bruinbabe" has UL as well, another UCLA fan??? I'd think so. Then a bunch of arguing and then "KingofSC" has UL in his top 10 as well. EVERYONE had UL in their top 10.....from all over the country.

http://daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/
1 University of Kentucky 2 University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) 3 University of North Carolina 4 University of Kansas 5 Duke University 6 Indiana University 7 University of Louisville 8 Universtiy of Arkansas 9 Universtiy of Connecticut (UConn) 10 Universtiy of Cincinnati

http://video.yahoo.com/playlist/100317340

There's a couple more on the first page of the google search that Tim posted. READING SKILLS, USE THEM.
Like I said earlier, it is because of UK that Tenn. is no longer a ranked team.. It doesn't matter what else Tim posted, he posted a link to a forum.. Doesn't matter if it is a Louisville basketball or college basketball forum, it's still a forum and doesn't mean squat.. There are plenty of idiots right here to claim Louisville being a top 10 basketball program of all time.. REALITY CHECK, LOOK INTO IT..

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 04:20 PM
UK would definitely be ranked if they hadn't lost to VMI in the opener and had a better RPI (something like 44th). The 4 losses is what's dragging them down right now. It's all academic, however, b/c they'll be in next week unless they lose.

There are a few Top 25 teams that I think UK are better than: Memphis - One quality win (G'town), and they're now into their weak ConfUSA schedule; St. Mary's - Played nobody and lost to UTEP; Baylor - Two decent wins against ASU and Providence, but not too impressive; and Notre Dame - Wins against Texas and G'town, but I was at the UofL game, and I gotta say that I wasn't too impressed. They looked awfully slow to me, although they're fundamentally sound and can shoot.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_glockner/01/19/bubble.watch/2.html

That says that UK's RPI is 64 and SOS is 115.

"As of Monday morning, the SEC remained absent from ESPN.com's InsideRPI Top 25 as well. There are nine leagues represented above the SEC in the RPI, including the Horizon, the Atlantic 10, the Mountain West and Conference USA. Even with an alarming number of SEC teams hiding out at home during the nonconference season and playing nobodies -- 10 of the 12 schools rank 196th or lower in strength of schedule, according to Jeff Sagarin"

That's from Forde minutes. Pretty telling.

I think that ND is very similar but a touch better than UK.

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 04:26 PM
Like I said earlier, it is because of UK that Tenn. is no longer a ranked team.. It doesn't matter what else Tim posted, he posted a link to a forum.. Doesn't matter if it is a Louisville basketball or college basketball forum, it's still a forum and doesn't mean squat.. There are plenty of idiots right here to claim Louisville being a top 10 basketball program of all time.. REALITY CHECK, LOOK INTO IT..

I know what you said and like I said earlier "If so, if you beat a team and they are later ranked (proving they were underrated) it doesn't count but if you beat a team and they are no longer ranked (proving they were overrated) it counts? Doesn't quite make sense.".

Secondly, I wasn't backing up the forum just proving that what you guys were insinuating was completely wrong. Why does general consensus on a forum not mean as much as what some sportswriter says? Even so I posted two other links from sportswriters that had Louisville in their top 10.

KYhunter79
01-20-2009, 04:37 PM
By the way...

Another sportswriter article claiming Louisville in the top 10.
http://beyondthearc.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/26/1295578.aspx

"UofL basketball has been named the seventh best all-time basketball program by Street and Smith's, The Sporting News, and CBS Sportsline."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville_Cardinals_men%27s_basketball

Another video in reference to Louisville being one of the top 10 programs...
http://beta.sling.com/video/show/28948/66/Louisville-Cardinals----Greatest-Co

If you don't think UL is on of the top 10 programs of all time YOU are the one that needs a REALITY CHECK.

slickhead slayer
01-20-2009, 05:27 PM
Don't really want to get in the middle of this whizzing match. But this morning on the early birds, they were comparing the Big east and other conferences.They pulled the last 3 years and wins by conference in the Tournament and guess what. The SEC was number 1 while the Big East was second to last against the power conferences.

pbrdrnkr
01-20-2009, 05:30 PM
LOL.. i'm pretty sure i would get banned if i said that!
I got a warning for telling a guy not to become a uk fan on another thread, they told me the warning was for dragging uk/UL talk into other threads. and he gets away with this:confused:

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 06:04 PM
I got a warning for telling a guy not to become a uk fan on another thread, they told me the warning was for dragging uk/UL talk into other threads. and he gets away with this:confused:

yeah i saw your remark, i figured you'd be gettin a message

pbrdrnkr
01-20-2009, 06:07 PM
yeah i saw your remark, i figured you'd be gettin a message
why don't you get anything said to you? are you special or what? just curious

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 06:15 PM
why don't you get anything said to you? are you special or what? just curious

i'm usually on the recieving end lol

but i've had a warning, and they give me a short vacation one time, but i talked to chad and go to come back

basically, dont cuss like a mofo...... threaten to kill anyone, call someone "sweetie" or mention the KKK and you'll be fine, oh yea, and don't hijack threads with a topic thats already being argued about

maxcam
01-20-2009, 06:39 PM
You guys seriously lack reading skills.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/community/archive/index.php?t-80.html

There is the forum mention. It's not anything to do with UL, its collegehoopsnet. The thread starter is "kentubby" and selects UK as number 1, I'd be willing to bet he's a UK fan and has UL in his top 10. "Cigarboy" is next and also has UL, and he's referred to as a UCLA homer so that solves that. "MSUracer" agrees with "cigarboy", I'd be willing to bet he's a murray state fan? "Bruinbabe" has UL as well, another UCLA fan??? I'd think so. Then a bunch of arguing and then "KingofSC" has UL in his top 10 as well. EVERYONE had UL in their top 10.....from all over the country.

http://daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/
1 University of Kentucky 2 University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) 3 University of North Carolina 4 University of Kansas 5 Duke University 6 Indiana University 7 University of Louisville 8 Universtiy of Arkansas 9 Universtiy of Connecticut (UConn) 10 Universtiy of Cincinnati

http://video.yahoo.com/playlist/100317340

There's a couple more on the first page of the google search that Tim posted. READING SKILLS, USE THEM.

Good Gawd man....... are you serious.........

You want to use Wiki, which is a public information website that can be edited by a biased fan like you, something called daresler.net, whoever they are and a yahoo video produced by someone called MOJO......

Tim please post up what you got so we can get on with an intelligent discussion........

Im being serious when I say there is nothing creditable to back up what you are saying that I can find................

I will admit that when I googled louisville top ten college basketball programs in history

I came up with this:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=391683

But Im sure that the author has seen the light given the recent turn of events with KRAGTHORPE and wishes he would have waited a year before he wrote it!:D

teacher
01-20-2009, 07:31 PM
By the way...

Another sportswriter article claiming Louisville in the top 10.
http://beyondthearc.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/26/1295578.aspx

"UofL basketball has been named the seventh best all-time basketball program by Street and Smith's, The Sporting News, and CBS Sportsline."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville_Cardinals_men%27s_basketball

Another video in reference to Louisville being one of the top 10 programs...
http://beta.sling.com/video/show/28948/66/Louisville-Cardinals----Greatest-Co

If you don't think UL is on of the top 10 programs of all time YOU are the one that needs a REALITY CHECK.
REALITY: I can find just as many, maybe more sites that doesn't have Louisville in the top 10 of all time, believe I have already posted a few earlier in this thread.. Guess what, one was from espn.com and not a public forum..:o

Art
01-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Can someone please explain to me how Purdue and Notre Dame are in the top 25 and UK isn't?

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 07:47 PM
Can someone please explain to me how Purdue and Notre Dame are in the top 25 and UK isn't?

I'm sure someone will be with you right away lol

Tim T
01-20-2009, 08:25 PM
Like I said earlier, it is because of UK that Tenn. is no longer a ranked team.. It doesn't matter what else Tim posted, he posted a link to a forum.. Doesn't matter if it is a Louisville basketball or college basketball forum, it's still a forum and doesn't mean squat.. There are plenty of idiots right here to claim Louisville being a top 10 basketball program of all time.. REALITY CHECK, LOOK INTO IT..


Wow, I didn't post a link to a forum, but you are not always with it anyway, I posted a link to a google search where you can click which ever link you want.

Scott, nobody that I have seen on this entire thread said anything about U of L doing anything that UK hasn't done. Now there are a few things UK has done that U of L hasn't. One of them is being stripped of victories and banned from post season play for MAJOR NCAA violations....Go Cat$:eek:

slickhead slayer
01-20-2009, 08:25 PM
why don't you get anything said to you? are you special or what? just curious

man you whine alot

nooge
01-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Alright fellas, this is like the Hatfields and McCoys. The argument about UL and UK will go on for eternity. I believe that college basketball is cyclical. We obviously were in a down period for a couple of years, but it's starting to come back around. NC had there down time in late 90's, Duke in the early 00's and UK after that. Louisville was in a slump for about 10-15 years and now they're back and I'm glad they are, I think it adds tremendously to the rivalry. And remember, it doesn't matter what you're ranked in January so long as you win the games you're supposed to and finish the last 10 games strong.

maxcam
01-20-2009, 08:33 PM
Wow, I didn't post a link to a forum, but you are not always with it anyway, I posted a link to a google search where you can click which ever link you want.

Scott, nobody that I have seen on this entire thread said anything about U of L doing anything that UK hasn't done. Now there are a few things UK has done that U of L hasn't. One of them is being stripped of victories and banned from post season play for MAJOR NCAA violations....Go Cat$:eek:

So what is your point? That UofL cheats better than UofK?;)

therron258
01-20-2009, 08:33 PM
I got a warning for telling a guy not to become a uk fan on another thread, they told me the warning was for dragging uk/UL talk into other threads. and he gets away with this:confused:
next is a warning for whining.

pbrdrnkr
01-20-2009, 08:58 PM
man you whine alot
whine I was asking Scott a question thanks anyway.

pbrdrnkr
01-20-2009, 09:00 PM
Alright fellas, this is like the Hatfields and McCoys. The argument about UL and UK will go on for eternity. I believe that college basketball is cyclical. We obviously were in a down period for a couple of years, but it's starting to come back around. NC had there down time in late 90's, Duke in the early 00's and UK after that. Louisville was in a slump for about 10-15 years and now they're back and I'm glad they are, I think it adds tremendously to the rivalry. And remember, it doesn't matter what you're ranked in January so long as you win the games you're supposed to and finish the last 10 games strong.
Finally someone with some whits about them from the blue side:DSmartest think from the blues in awhile.

maxcam
01-20-2009, 09:00 PM
You guys need to let up on the mods.......They do a pretty good job policing this forum and I for one wouldnt want the headache.....I also appreciate them being active and not just trolling around looking to slap someone on the wrist when they do get out of line.......

pbrdrnkr
01-20-2009, 09:02 PM
next is a warning for whining.
Wow that was original!! I think the only one whining is Art, I was just commenting on the warning cause I see a whole lot of stuff on here and was surprised that what I said warranted a warning:p

Scott7m
01-20-2009, 09:26 PM
You guys need to let up on the mods.......They do a pretty good job policing this forum and I for one wouldnt want the headache.....I also appreciate them being active and not just trolling around looking to slap someone on the wrist when they do get out of line.......

who said anything about the mods??? no one that i seen

Tim T
01-20-2009, 10:40 PM
Tim please post up what you got so we can get on with an intelligent discussion........

Im being serious when I say there is nothing creditable to back up what you are saying that I can find................



http://www.cbssports.com/b/page/pressbox/0,1328,4214290,00.html

http://daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/

http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/sports2000/players/149862.html

http://beyondthearc.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525593.aspx

teacher
01-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Wow, I didn't post a link to a forum, but you are not always with it anyway, I posted a link to a google search where you can click which ever link you want.

Scott, nobody that I have seen on this entire thread said anything about U of L doing anything that UK hasn't done. Now there are a few things UK has done that U of L hasn't. One of them is being stripped of victories and banned from post season play for MAJOR NCAA violations....Go Cat$:eek:
A google search that yields two forums.. Just so happens that those two forums contain the info you wanted everybody to see.. Try harder..:o

Tim T
01-21-2009, 10:37 AM
A google search that yields two forums.. Just so happens that those two forums contain the info you wanted everybody to see.. Try harder..:o


No comments about the links above? I didn't even look to see what was in the google search, I typed in "Greatest college basketball programs in history" and all of those links showed up. Wow, you keep stretching and stretching and eventually you are going to stretch so far you lose your balance and fall down.:rolleyes:

teacher
01-21-2009, 12:21 PM
No comments about the links above? I didn't even look to see what was in the google search, I typed in "Greatest college basketball programs in history" and all of those links showed up. Wow, you keep stretching and stretching and eventually you are going to stretch so far you lose your balance and fall down.:rolleyes:
Didn't even look at the latest links, to tell the truth.. You had your chance and blew it with the forum crap..WEAK MAN, WEAK!!!!

Tim T
01-21-2009, 02:30 PM
Didn't even look at the latest links, to tell the truth.. You had your chance and blew it with the forum crap..WEAK MAN, WEAK!!!!


Coming from you, one of the most uninformed people on this board, this is a compliment. I proved my point...did you? Jeez you make Mills seem knowledgeable about sports.:rolleyes:

teacher
01-21-2009, 03:09 PM
Coming from you, one of the most uninformed people on this board, this is a compliment. I proved my point...did you? Jeez you make Mills seem knowledgeable about sports.:rolleyes:
That you get your info from public forums? Tell you what, try watching ESPN and stay away from Lifetime network and the Oprah show.. :eek: Also the Spike channel has some manly shows on the weekends.. Look into it..

Tim T
01-21-2009, 03:23 PM
That you get your info from public forums? Tell you what, try watching ESPN and stay away from Lifetime network and the Oprah show.. :eek: Also the Spike channel has some manly shows on the weekends.. Look into it..


Oh I have seen ESPN plenty of times, Heck I can name a couple of times where I was one of the main people appearing on ESPN..Also USA and HBO. Did I mention that for 11 years I worked as a sportswriter after that?

Got anything else?:rolleyes:

quackrstackr
01-21-2009, 03:34 PM
Come on guys...

Tim T
01-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Come on guys...

Sorry Quack, I am done with this thread. I should know better, I know which Uk fans on here you can have honest debate and now I know a couple that I can't.

maxcam
01-21-2009, 04:16 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/b/page/pressbox/0,1328,4214290,00.html

http://daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/

http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/sports2000/players/149862.html

http://beyondthearc.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525593.aspx

You guys back off Tim......He is a world class athlete that has the face to prove it......:D What I meant to say was Tim was a pro boxer and he has more than a few by lines to his credit.....We have been friends for a very long time and rib one another now and again but I always value his opinion......

Tim, I will accept the sporting news source but I cannot accept anything from a company that once employed Billy Packer as their basketball guru.....:D

In all seriousness and sincerity, the University of Louisville is to Kentucky what Duke is to North Carolina......Without the rivalry between them, neither team would be held in the elite ranks of college basketball........

The important thing to note in all of this though is that Kentucky always has and always will have the higher place in status as one of the all time greats in NCAA Basketball..................;)

teacher
01-21-2009, 06:02 PM
Oh I have seen ESPN plenty of times, Heck I can name a couple of times where I was one of the main people appearing on ESPN..Also USA and HBO. Did I mention that for 11 years I worked as a sportswriter after that?

Got anything else?:rolleyes:
Wow, see if you can get your job back...:eek:

KYhunter79
01-21-2009, 09:33 PM
Sorry Quack, I am done with this thread. I should know better, I know which Uk fans on here you can have honest debate and now I know a couple that I can't.

Yeah, its a lost cause with some. Most are actually pretty rational. Some are complete morons.

Don't try to have a debate with Mills or Teacher. You're asking for trouble. They wont be bothered by facts or statistics.

Scott7m
01-21-2009, 09:55 PM
UK shouldn't be considered in the top 75 based on how they played this first half... 13 or 14 turnovers. they look pathetic

it's just like they have no concentration at all tonight!